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Odds are most people would not want to store an AR or AK this same way for fear of theft while unattended or neglect-related damage to a reasonably expensive firearm. At $99 you can throw it away and buy a new one if the fuglification bothers you that much.
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I think the "theory" is that while nice shotguns are nice, usually people are unwilling to subject their "nice" shotgun to the wear & tear (and risk) of keeping it somewhere it might be needed on short or zero notice, such as a car trunk, in the motor home, at the cabin, or buried for TEOTWAWKI. Places it's not likely to find a lot of regular use but a usable (if somewhat craptastic) firearm that you really aren't going to be that upset if it gets a little rusty, scraped up, scratched etc. That kind of "survival", not "Red Dawn" survival. More like "Well, crap, here I am without a gun and really need one... oh, wait, didn't we have that El Cheapo thunderstick stuck back in the closet here at the cabin? Just for emergencies?" You pull it out and the stock has been gnawed on by mice and the barrel's got some rust freckled... but it still shoots.
Odds are most people would not want to store an AR or AK this same way for fear of theft while unattended or neglect-related damage to a reasonably expensive firearm. At $99 you can throw it away and buy a new one if the fuglification bothers you that much.Last edited by bruss01; 09-26-2017, 10:21 AM.The one thing worse than defeat is surrender. -
Because single shot shotguns don't need to be expensive to work. Doesn't matter if they cost $100 or $1000, they'll work the same. There's very little to them and are one of the few firearms that could be worked on and repaired without much gunsmithing knowledge or proper spare parts.
Firing pin broke? Replace it with a pointy bit of hardened steel. Spring worn out? Find one and cut to fit. I used a spring from a ball point pen as a replacement firing pin spring. Most other types of firearms require more complex replacement parts. Even pump shotguns are fairly complex compared to the humble single shot.
There are older used shotguns by H&R, NEF and the various Sears brands out there for around $100 that are nicer quality, but still cheap and not usually collectible. So modifying them won't ruin their value since they have so little anyway. The problem with my old single shots is that they don't have vent ribs, making attaching slug sights difficult. But, if buckshot will suffice, the basic bead sight will work.Comment
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Cheaper than Walmart!
If anyone is interested in this gun, I found a source online that is cheaper than Walmart- under $95!
Woodbury Outfitters has them for a regualr price of $104.85 with free shipping: http://woodburyoutfitters.com/hatfie...uge-28-ush12w/
With SAVE10 promo code, you get 10% off. That makes it $94.36 shipped. Code ends at 11:59 EST tonight.
I have not bought from Woodbury Outfitters before, but I ordered one yesterday and got a tracking number this morning, so they're off to a good start. I have another online shotgun purchase coming, so I can put it on the same DROS, and FFL is charging only $10 extra for second gun. So basically my cost on this is $104.36 plus tax, and I never have to set foot in WalMart to do it.Pooty Poot, you sure screwed the pooch this time! - Ghost of Roza Shanina, WWII Soviet SniperComment
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Gun Search at wikiarms allows searching online for guns. Here is search for Hatfield. Apparently 410, 20, and 12.
They're all about $100 and all have ribs.
If you are watching any of the videos above on Youtube, you will see LOTS of other videos on the right hand side of the video playing window, by other people doing the same sort of mods on this same gun. Each doing the same thing in his own way, using different tools.
Simple hand tools hacksaw, electric drill, wood drill bit, file. And a knife sharpening stone (the guy said any $2 stone from the Dollar Store works, he was smoothing the trigger guard with it). Wrapping with camouflage tape after using linseed oil on the bare wood keeps it looking half way decent after bubba cuts to the stock.
The whole idea is a cheap survival pack rifle, perhaps using gauge adapters in holes in the stock.
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OP, I can't say that I "need" this gun, but I'm really looking forward to the project. The price is unimaginable. Thanks for posting!Pooty Poot, you sure screwed the pooch this time! - Ghost of Roza Shanina, WWII Soviet SniperComment
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Gun Search at wikiarms allows searching online for guns. Here is search for Hatfield. Apparently 410, 20, and 12.
They're all about $100 and all have ribs.
If you are watching any of the videos above on Youtube, you will see LOTS of other videos on the right hand side of the video playing window, by other people doing the same sort of mods on this same gun. Each doing the same thing in his own way, using different tools.
Simple hand tools hacksaw, electric drill, wood drill bit, file. And a knife sharpening stone (the guy said any $2 stone from the Dollar Store works, he was smoothing the trigger guard with it). Wrapping with camouflage tape after using linseed oil on the bare wood keeps it looking half way decent after bubba cuts to the stock.
The whole idea is a cheap survival pack rifle, perhaps using gauge adapters in holes in the stock.
https://www.gunadapters.com
I am undecided on the length of the adapters to get. It's essentially going to be a pistol velocity VS rifle velocity considering the length of the adapters in comparison to the shotgun barrel length. Any determination on your end?Comment
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For rifle/handgun ammo in shotgun, the longer adapters give better accuracy, and are quieter shooting. But expensive. The best are the guy in Alaska (up to 18" long).
For storing in the shotgun stock short is the way to go. It's ten dollars off on stack pack.
Shortlane runs sales every month , different product or sale each month. The stack pack is on sale now..
Youtube video show two 12 gauge shells stored in Hatfield stock one behind the other, so two short adaptors should fit, even if not stacked inside each other. Or one longer one, say 5 inches (the bug out rifled shortlane).Comment
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He's shooting 40 yards in the video, shotgun patterns well. The .22 doesn't of course (it's an unrifled smooth .22 adapter).
You can build your own nest of adapters that fit inside each other, like 12 to 20, 20 to 9mm, etc., they will fit inside each other same way.Last edited by Darto; 09-28-2017, 2:31 PM.Comment
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If you want a survival single shot shotgun, build a slam gun for less than the cost of dros. Why spend 140+ when you can build with simple over the counter parts for 1/4 of the cost......that's survival. No springs, no triggers, nothing that can fail really.Comment
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At 8 minutes into the second of three videos, shows to 12 gauge shells in one hole...Comment
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Except the barrel, exploding and turning your hand into a bloody stump. For $140, you can safely shoot buckshot and slugs with decent sights and trigger.
Nothing worse than having to survive and then injuring yourself with your own gear.
The point of crappy single use firearms is to kill someone and take their gun. Not survival in the conventional sense.
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$130 max OTD after shipping, tax, and DROS. It'll be a fun gun. After adapters and mods, I'm sure I'll be at $200 for a fun gun.Last edited by code_blue; 09-29-2017, 11:16 AM.Comment
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This looks like a fun project. I have to call my cousins we might have to a gun modification party.Comment
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