Non NFA 14 inch Shotgun?

[Rottentofu]

I just read online that pistol grip shotguns can have 14 inch barrel without getting the tax stamp? Is that true?

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Has to have NEVER EVER had a stock attached and have over 26" OAL with that 14" barrel on it.

Thats why peeps put the birdshead grips on...

[Rottentofu]

What's the advantage of using a birdshead grip?

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Makes the overall length longer than a pistol grip so you can shorten barrel.

[Rottentofu]

So I can't really convert my existing shotgun (with normal stock) into 14 inch barrel even if I use birdshead grip? I need to buy one that comes with a pistol or birdshead grip?

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

No.

You have to buy pistol grip shotgun.

[Rottentofu]

No.

You have to buy pistol grip shotgun.

Understood. Thank you for your help!

If I buy a pistol grip Maverick 88 and put a birdshead grip on it, I should be able to install this conversion kit right?

https://www.armsunlimited.com/mobile/product.aspx?ProductCode=92514&404;https://www.armsunlimited.com:443/Mossberg-500-590-Short-Barrel-Shotgun-Conversion-p/92514.htm=

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

That would work but if you can find one of these it should be cheaper.

https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/

[Rottentofu]

That would work but if you can find one of these it should be cheaper.

https://www.mossberg.com/category/series/590-shockwave/

Awesome! Thanks again!

[SkyHawk]

But it is not legal in CA unless you get a tax stamp and approved application to make an AOW yourself. You can start with the 18 version, apply for the stamp to manufacture AOW then after you get approved you can serialize the receiver and attach a short barrel or chop your barrel.

And yes it cannot have ever had a stock and cannot have one after you make it into AOW.

[Frisco3Gun]

Uhhh, completely wrong information here, quit spreading it. Barrel is under 18"...

http://www.calguns.net/caawid/sgflowchart.pdf

SkyHawk has the correct answer.

[LEAD LAUNCHER]

Yes.
My bad-I have out of state on my mind...

This would fly out of state but you woukd need to aow it in california.

I facepalm myself...

[Rottentofu]

No worries, all good. Thanks everyone!

[SkyHawk]

Also I think a 14" barrel would be too long for legal AOW in CA, has to be under 26" OAL??

[SkyHawk]

And for the record, because someone will stumble on this thread later....

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=17180.&lawCode=PEN

17180.
As used in this part, "short-barreled shotgun” means any of the following:
(a) A firearm that is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell and has a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length.
(b) A firearm that has an overall length of less than 26 inches and that is designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell.
(c) Any weapon made from a shotgun (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if that weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length.
(d) Any device that may be readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell which, when so restored, is a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive.
(e) Any part, or combination of parts, designed and intended to convert a device into a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, or any combination of parts from which a device defined in subdivisions (a) to (c), inclusive, can be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=33215.&lawCode=PEN

33215. Except as provided in Sections 33220 and 33225 and in Chapter 1 (commencing with Section 17700) of Division 2 of Title 2, any person in this state who manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, lends, or possesses any short-barreled rifle or short-barreled shotgun is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170.