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  • edward
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 966

    Question about pistol gripped shotguns

    I remember reading a few weeks/months ago that you have to be 21 to buy or possibly possess a pistol gripped shotgun.

    Now, I may have been having a nightmare, but I'm not sure.

    So is anyone aware of a law; federal or state, regarding shotguns that are pump or semi, being illegal to buy or possess by someone under 21 if they have a pistol grip?
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    EBR Works
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Dec 2007
    • 10492

    I have never heard or read this.


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    • #3
      sorensen440
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2007
      • 8612

      Must be 21 to buy a pistol grip shotgun but nothing illegal about putting a pistol grip on after its legally purchased
      "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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      • #4
        EBR Works
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Dec 2007
        • 10492

        I stand corrected. I did not know that.


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        • #5
          edward
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 966

          Well, that isn't that bad.

          I then suppose it is kosher to have the seller take the PG off, mail it to me, send the non gripped but otherwise converted S 12 to the dealer, and DROS it like normal?
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          • #6
            EBR Works
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Dec 2007
            • 10492

            I did a search and found conflicting info on this. Can someone point me to the regulation that states this? Thanks.


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            • #7
              Quiet
              retired Goon
              • Mar 2007
              • 30242

              A factory pistol grip only shotgun is not classified as a long gun under Federal law, that is why the age to purchase is 21 or older.

              And the reason why, if you shorten the barrel under 18" it becomes an AOW and not a SBS.

              Shotguns can be purchased by persons 18 or older and the shotgun can have a pistol grip.

              There are also no law preventing a person from installing a pistol grip to a shotgun.
              Unless the shotgun is imported into the USA and is a semi-auto, then Federal 922(r) parts compliance needs to be done.
              Last edited by Quiet; 02-11-2009, 8:30 PM.
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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30242

                Originally posted by edward
                Well, that isn't that bad.

                I then suppose it is kosher to have the seller take the PG off, mail it to me, send the non gripped but otherwise converted S 12 to the dealer, and DROS it like normal?
                Are you inquiring about a converted Saiga-12?

                If so, the pistol grip can remain on the shotgun as long as the Saiga-12 has enough US made parts to comply with Federal 922(r).

                Since, it is a shotgun, the age to purchase is 18 or older.

                Also, the Saiga-12 needs to have a magazine lock installed on the shotgun prior to being shipped to CA.
                Last edited by Quiet; 02-11-2009, 8:31 PM.
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                • #9
                  edward
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 966

                  Originally posted by Quiet
                  Are you inquiring about a converted Saiga-12?

                  If so, the pistol grip can remain on the shotgun as long as the Saiga-12 has enough US made parts to comply with Federal 922(r).

                  Since, it is a shotgun, the age to purchase is 18 or older.

                  Also, the Saiga-12 needs to have a magazine lock installed on the shotgun prior to being shipped to CA.
                  Fully aware of that, thank you all the same.

                  Can someone corroborate that the pistol grip can stay on before it comes in for DROS?

                  ETA: yes I am talking about a Saiga 12.
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                  • #10
                    EBR Works
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 10492

                    Originally posted by Quiet
                    A factory pistol grip only shotgun is not classified as a long gun under Federal law, that is why the age to purchase is 21 or older.
                    Got it. Does not apply to Shotguns with a stock and a pistol grip.

                    A Saiga 12 transferred into California must have a mag lock device and can have a pistol grip or a folding/telescoping stock but not both.


                    Pistol grip can stay on for transfer.
                    Last edited by EBR Works; 02-11-2009, 8:42 PM.


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