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  • kegs
    Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 188

    Need suggestions on shooting technique

    So I have a Benelli Montefeltro that I've used for sporting clays a few times. I took a lesson with someone who helped me with technique; however, when getting my cheek up close against the stock, I'm taking a bit of the recoil into my cheekbone, which isn't really that comfortable (leaves a very minor bruise the next day). Same thing happened with the shotgun I used when I took a lesson (think it was a Beretta auto).

    Any suggested adjustments to make to how I'm holding the shotgun to prevent this?

    Maybe it's just the stock that vibrates in a certain way where a different stock would help? I don't know enough about shotguns to know one way or another.

    Thanks in advance for the help.
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    Cuda440
    CGN Contributor
    • Sep 2010
    • 3289

    Your benelli should have come with a few stock shims that can adjust the fit. You can probably have someone at the clay range help you figure out what you need, or watch some YouTube videos on shotgun fit and figure it out yourself with a mirror or camera to see how you're mounting your gun
    Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

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    • #3
      kegs
      Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 188

      Originally posted by Cuda440
      Your benelli should have come with a few stock shims that can adjust the fit. You can probably have someone at the clay range help you figure out what you need, or watch some YouTube videos on shotgun fit and figure it out yourself with a mirror or camera to see how you're mounting your gun
      Do the shims just adjust length, or do they do anything for the stock angle? Maybe it's just my cheek-to-eye distance, but to get a good sight on the bead & rib, it's almost like I have to push my face down a bit on the stock. I'll spend some time on YouTube, good point, thanks.

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      • #4
        Cuda440
        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2010
        • 3289

        They mostly adjust the stock angle, most likely your gun came with the neutral shim (or no shim) installed so the stock is perfectly straight. Most higher end clay guns will have a cast to the stock so that it either goes slightly left off the action for right handed shooters or its cast to the right for left handed shooters. I believe there's also shims to adjust the stock vertically as well.

        When the gun fits right, you should be able to shoulder it completely naturally with your eyes closed, and when you open your eyes you're looking straight down the sights. The shims help move the action and sights where they need to be when you have the stock shouldered where you want it
        Last edited by Cuda440; 12-28-2016, 2:01 PM.
        Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.

        Thomas Jefferson

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        • #5
          kegs
          Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 188

          Originally posted by Cuda440
          They mostly adjust the stock angle, most likely your gun came with the neutral shim (or no shim) installed so the stock is perfectly straight. Most higher end clay guns will have a cast to the stock so that it either goes slightly left off the action for right handed shooters or its cast to the right for left handed shooters. I believe there's also shims to adjust the stock vertically as well.

          When the gun fits right, you should be able to shoulder it completely naturally with your eyes closed, and when you open your eyes you're looking straight down the sights. The shims help move the action and sights where they need to be when you have the stock shouldered where you want it
          Gotcha, thanks.

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          • #6
            BOBGBA
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Sep 2010
            • 2390

            Did you have the owner's manual?
            Start at page 106 and read about drop and cast.
            If not go here and download it.
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            • #7
              Thefeeder
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 5007

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              Cheek slap is a mount and or stock fit issue.....If you near Triple B shooting range ......look up the SoCal Skeet Clinic. They will help you get rid of the problem

              Look at the top of the shotgun forum for the thread

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              • #8
                kegs
                Member
                • Jun 2007
                • 188

                Originally posted by BOBGBA
                Did you have the owner's manual?
                Start at page 106 and read about drop and cast.
                If not go here and download it.
                http://www.benelliusa.com/sites/defa...ontefeltro.pdf
                I have it, but PDF is great to have too, thanks!

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                • #9
                  kegs
                  Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 188

                  Originally posted by Thefeeder
                  Cheek slap is a mount and or stock fit issue.....If you near Triple B shooting range ......look up the SoCal Skeet Clinic. They will help you get rid of the problem

                  Look at the top of the shotgun forum for the thread
                  Thanks - The guy I got a lesson with seemed to be quite the pro, so I'm following his mounting advice to hold the shotgun, but I will explore Triple B, I think they're close enough for a day trip.

                  edit: Triple B would be a trek, does Prado or Rahaagues (spelling?) have a good clinic as well?
                  Last edited by kegs; 12-28-2016, 4:53 PM.

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                  • #10
                    ysr_racer
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 12014

                    I'll be at Raahauge's tomorrow at 9:30 with a couple of guys that are instructors. You're welcome to join us.

                    I'm in Tustin, where are you located?

                    Getting beat up is usually gun fit related to gun mount. You have to have a good gun mount, before you can start looking at gun fit.

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                    • #11
                      eddy 600
                      Member
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 101

                      I have the same shotgun and when i used it at the skeet clinic they put tape and a piece of foam to raise my line of sight. I took Brads advice and took it to Bob Day he moved around a few shims and made it fit as well as it could and recommended a cheek riser add on to raise it up a 1/2in. I'm just a ham n Egger but the gun points and shoots a lot better after his adjustments. the instructors at the triple Bs clinic are a great help to shooters of all skill levels.

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                      • #12
                        kegs
                        Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 188

                        Originally posted by ysr_racer
                        I'll be at Raahauge's tomorrow at 9:30 with a couple of guys that are instructors. You're welcome to join us.

                        I'm in Tustin, where are you located?

                        Getting beat up is usually gun fit related to gun mount. You have to have a good gun mount, before you can start looking at gun fit.
                        Thanks, but unfortunately at work tomorrow!

                        Next time (I'm not far from Tustin and would love to join a group sometime).

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                        • #13
                          ysr_racer
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 12014

                          No problem, where are you at?

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                          • #14
                            anti
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 2098

                            Firm with the cheek and back hand and light with the lead hand. No more slappy
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                            • #15
                              trapperjohn
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 724

                              Anti - that's not exactly true, there can certainly be more to it. As racer pointed out, correct mount is the starting point; but even with the best mount, one can still experience cheek slap if the pitch of the stock (the angle of the recoil pad relative to the rib) is not ideal for the shooter's mount, body position, and physical build. If the pitch angle results in the toe of the stock contacting the shoulder pocket much at all before the rest of the stock, cheek slap is likely, regardless.

                              The So Cal Shotgun/skeet clinic is the best place to start.

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