Over under for $1500

[ysr_racer]

I'm not disagreeing with you. But if he's buying his first nice shotgun, he's not going to want it to get dicked up.

[Tom-ADC]

I bought a pair of B.C. Miruko Superior grade O/U back in 1969 I've shot a lot of skeet with them and a fair taken my fair share of Dove, Quail and pheasant with them, I don't do the water fowl thing anymore if I did I'd use a synthetic stocked 12 ga semi auto.

[ScottB]

Agreed, but if you're only buying one do all shotgun, a synthetic semi auto is a good place to start.

A little like buying one do all golf club.

[ysr_racer]

More like buying a Corvette. Take it to the track, take it to work, take it to the grocery store, take it to impress the high school girls in Newport.

[ScottB]

Forget about the Win 101 (both older Japanese or newer Belgian)

Hunting with an O/U (or SxS) for upland birds is the only way to go, because you don't have to chase hulls all over the landscape.

Nothing wrong with Winchester 101s. I have owned and shot several. Same company made my Model 23 SXS which is a really excellent shotgun. My favorite trap gun is a Diamond Grade 2 barrel set which is a essentially Japanese 101.

The problem with autos and pumps spewing hulls all over the landscape is not so much chasing hulls all over the landscape. The real problem is way too many people don't bother to do that. That and the hulls tell everyone where you found birds.

[ScottB]

More like buying a Corvette. Take it to the track, take it to work, take it to the grocery store, take it to impress the high school girls in Newport.

Corvettes don't impress in Newport. And they only have two seats, no clearance and no cargo capacity, so to further belabor the metaphor, you'll need at least one more club to play the whole game.

[ysr_racer]

I don't see many Krieghoffs in the dick blind. I wonder why?

[olhunter]

I don't see many Krieghoffs in the dick blind. I wonder why?

Because Krieghoff, which is German for 'reach-around', is just too hard to do in a dick blind.

[joefrank64k]

I don't see many Krieghoffs in the dick blind. I wonder why?

Because Krieghoff, which is German for 'reach-around', is just too hard to do in a dick blind.

That's sig-worthy right there, haha!!

[ysr_racer]

You guys are right, an o/u is the perfect do all shotgun. Happy now?

[Ducky's Dad]

Nothing wrong with Winchester 101s.

Well, actually there are some issues with 101s. I own two of the Japanese 101s, one in 12ga and one in .410. Some complain that the Olin Kodensha 101s kick a lot for their gauge and load. I have not noticed that, but it's a consistent theme when 101s are being discusssed. The early 101s were all fixed choke barrels and many (including my 12 Skeet) do not have enough barrel wall thickness to retrofit choke tubes, even thinwalls. With the factory having been closed for decades, some parts are scarce and some are not available without buying a parts gun. Probably not a wise choice for someone who asks advice on the interwebs about what's good for $1500. I like my 101s, but I don't think they are right for OP. The first gen Belgian 101s were extremely heavy and did not sell well because of that major flaw. Weight (properly distributed) is generally good in a clays gun, and bad in a hunting gun. OP wants to do both. The later Belgian 101s were lightened a bit and are nicer guns, but there is no compelling reason to chose one of those over a Beretta or Citori, unless OP falls into an unusually good deal on the 101.

[Bull Elk]

They're heavy, and I'd hate to drop a nice o/u in the mud or water. My duck gun, no big deal.

I have two O/U that weigh 5.5 lbs. yes, they are the inexpensive ATI Calvery's but are perfect when serving as a Gunner at AKC Hunt Tests.

[ysr_racer]

Again, you guys are right. An o/u is the perfect do all first shotgun.

[Ahansom]

Again, you guys are right. An o/u is the perfect do all first shotgun.

Nobody's right its just the OP asked about a good OU not about hunting dick's with a $15000 Krieghoff or a Auto gun

Personally for a break open type gun I shoot a Weatherby Orion in .410 for upland game and a Beretta 686 or Perazzi TMX for everything else

[kriller134]

Thanks guys for the suggestions. I might be asking too much for an all in one type gun, so I'm gonna try out as many as I can and see where that takes me.