Chokes and slugs

[randy]

I've heard in discussions and read on the internet don't shoot a slug through a full choke.

I've seen many chokes that tell you wheather or not you can use steel shot in them. I've never seen any choke that said don't use a slug in this choke. Anybody have a manual or a choke package that says don't shoot a slug through it?

I've watched many shooters run slugs in their full choke guns I'm sure I have too, no ill effects.

Buy a Ruger and they print a disclaimer on their barrels about the size of War and Peace. Where is that on chokes and slugs?

[11011500a]

Running a slug through a full choke barrel is a good way to split your barrel. You want minimal restriction.

[randy]

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Yeah I've heard you shouldn't. Where did you read it? That's the whole point to this thread. Show me. Does that mean you shouldn't shoot slugs through a barrel that was a full choke no screw ins? If so the manufacture would have put that on the barrel I would think.

I still haven't seen any manufacturer say don't run slugs in this choke or that choke.

[sargenv]

What I advise people on slugs and chokes is that if you have reservations about doing so, cut one of the slugs you want to shoot and simply push it through said choke and see how much resistance is neccesary. The general consensus is that you should shoot them out of open choked guns. Personally, my Browning Gold will handle the slugs I shoot (S&B brenneke style) with up to a modified choke since I did the cut test and I can push the slug through the choke with finger pressure. It's a friction fit, but it is likely not more than about .002" larger than my choke and will size down to fit.

I would not want to force that slug through my full choke as I'm leary about putting what would be a .012" oversize piece of lead through it. Why abuse my gun that way?

Foster slugs are designed to deform through a choke if neccesary, at least that's what I've read. Brenneke style slugs likely are designed that way also, and are generally pretty soft, but I still don't want to push my luck. If you are hell bent on pushing slugs through a full choke, well, have at it.. I'd advise you to contact your gun manufacturer to see what they have to say about it before trying it though.

[scr83jp]

I've heard in discussions and read on the internet don't shoot a slug through a full choke.

I've seen many chokes that tell you wheather or not you can use steel shot in them. I've never seen any choke that said don't use a slug in this choke. Anybody have a manual or a choke package that says don't shoot a slug through it?

I've watched many shooters run slugs in their full choke guns I'm sure I have too, no ill effects.

Buy a Ruger and they print a disclaimer on their barrels about the size of War and Peace. Where is that on chokes and slugs?

My GS with over 40 years of experience told me not to shoot 00 loads thru a full choked barrel let alone slugs,He recommended modified or cylinder bore for 00 & slugs so I followed his suggestions.

[randy]

SCR this has been said by many people over the camp fire. Has anybody seen it on a current manufactured shotgun or the owners manual for one?

When Vang Comp does a shotgun barrel you don' think he's choking the barrel down pretty tight to get the pattern so small with buck?

[randy]

I have my Benelli M2 manual in front of me. On page 60 it lists the choke sizes. With a full and improved modified choke lead shot is ok no steel shot. There is nothing about slugs. I checked the manual for my M4 same as my M2 manual. It was too hard to get to my M1 boxes so I didn't check them.
At this point I'm going with it doesn't matter what choke you use.
Anybody else have a different manual they could check?

[Dark&Good]

This is from the BrennekeUSA website FAQ:

"Question:
Why do your slugs work with choked barrels? What do the ribs do?

Answer:

[randy]

Thanks, D&G. The slugs you write about are for a rifled barrel only. Rifled barrels don't have chokes no issue on chokes.

Good info thanks.

I checked the Winchester site and Winchester doesn't have a slug warning for any of their slugs with any choke.

Remington also make slugs for use in fully rifled barrels. They also make slugs for use with rifled chokes. Their "generic" slugs for smooth bore shotguns have no restriction as to what choke to use.

My cases of Winchester Ranger slugs don't have any restriction on the case or the boxes.
At this point I agree with D&G about the manufactue to say no other wise any choke is good to go.

[Dark&Good]

Thanks, D&G. The slugs you write about are for a rifled barrel only. Rifled barrels don't have chokes no issue on chokes.

Well, not all Brenneke slugs are for rifled barrels only... The two products mentioned by name in the above FAQ are. I shoot their Black Magics and Heavy Field Short Magnums, using an I/C choke tube in a smoothbore barrel. I would definitely try to avoid shooting them through a full choke - I am sure that not ALL barrels are PERFECT... And with Dixie's hardened slugs, I'm almost sure that the tighter chokes would often lead to mishaps. Todd Corder and James at DixieSlugs gave exact data on barrel/choke diameters suitable for their slugs - even though they don't suggest using smoothbore barrels, Todd had some excellent results with plain cyl smoothbores, and hardened slugs meant to be fired from rifled barrels.

Let me know if you want a link to their official forum.

[randy]

It's up to the slug manufacturer to tell you what choke to use. If it doesn't say no it's ok to use a full choke is what I've gotten from this.

Sure post the link. I've never heard of Dixie hardened slugs. What is their application? I wouldn't think they could make anywhere near the number slugs of Winchester and Remington. I'd have to check on the other manufactures to see what they recommend.

Is Dixie a niche market?

[Dark&Good]

Yep, the slug manufacturer...

Dixie's home page:

http://dixieslugs.com/

The forum:

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewforum.php?f=77

They are into dangerous game. They have lots of info on ballistics and penetration, and they don't use 30" test barrels to measure these

[Dark&Good]

Um, sorry, I don't know what niche market means... I'm not English enough
(I'm from eastern EU)

[randy]

Niche market small group using something for a specific purpose. Not done for the masses. Might be another way of putting it.

[Dark&Good]

Thank you