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  • bigbearbear
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 5378

    A small kaboom from a shotshell

    Went to Coyote Valley for some trap shooting today and had a strange failure from a Winchester Super Target #7.5 1 1/8oz 1145fps shotshell.

    When fired, there was a much louder than normal BANG!! and the bolt of my semi-auto Benelli did not lock back. When inspected, the hull of the shotshell is broken and shredded. I field stripped the shotgun and inspected the bolt, carrier and barrel, everything seems fine and I continued to shoot for the rest of the day without problems.

    This is NOT a reload, it is new factory ammo. Does anyone know what can cause this?

    See pic of broken hull:



  • #2
    ysr_racer
    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 12014

    **** happens.

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    • #3
      scotus
      Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 162

      Maybe there was a small puncture on the side of the hull so that instead of directing all the force out some went to the side, blowing off part of it? Not sure, but glad the gun is ok.

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      • #4
        flatbedtruckin
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 785

        Material defect?
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        • #5
          Triggerease
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2015
          • 13

          Cracked casing....

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          • #6
            bigbearbear
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2011
            • 5378

            Originally posted by scotus
            Maybe there was a small puncture on the side of the hull so that instead of directing all the force out some went to the side, blowing off part of it? Not sure, but glad the gun is ok.
            Originally posted by flatbedtruckin
            Material defect?
            Originally posted by Triggerease
            Cracked casing....
            That's what I'm thinking too, some kind of puncture or crack on the hull due to defect.

            I think I might have been lucky in that the Benell is inertial driven, so even when a hull ruptures on firing, there was enough momentum to push the bolt back slightly and allowed the gas the escape. Scared the heck out of both me and my wife who was close by pressing the button to launch the bird for me (Coyote Valley uses a manual press button to throw birds).

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            • #7
              Chubs T
              Junior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 81

              Common problem with those Super Targets. I stopped using them because of it.

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              • #8
                AAShooter
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2010
                • 7188

                Higher quality ammo

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                • #9
                  SJulian10mm
                  Member
                  • Jan 2016
                  • 189

                  I had an old box of them a few years back, 4 of the 25 did that in my 870... brittle plastic


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                  • #10
                    bigbearbear
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 5378

                    Originally posted by Chubs T
                    Common problem with those Super Targets. I stopped using them because of it.
                    Originally posted by SJulian10mm
                    I had an old box of them a few years back, 4 of the 25 did that in my 870... brittle plastic


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                    Aww....crap, I have 2 more cases of these!

                    Guess I'll have to take my chances with them.

                    I thought Winchester is a manufacturer of premium ammo and even their economy produce line is of good quality. I've always lumped Winchester, Federal and Remington ammo as of the same quality level, being made in USA and all that. Its surprising to hear their Super Target line has issues with brittle plastic.

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                    • #11
                      d33pt
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1648

                      That's the one walmart sells right? I probably have about 1000 rounds through my shotgun with no problems. I have 500 left, hopefully they will be ok too.

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                      • #12
                        sandiego67
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 669

                        Originally posted by d33pt
                        That's the one walmart sells right? I probably have about 1000 rounds through my shotgun with no problems. I have 500 left, hopefully they will be ok too.
                        If you are buying them from WalMart (like I do), they don't have much time to go bad. Brittle plastic would seem to indicate age or heat.

                        WalMart blows through so many cases of these that they probably don't get stale on their shelves.

                        I have shot several thousand rounds over the past 9 months with no issues.

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                        • #13
                          JagerDog
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2011
                          • 15847

                          Aside from possible pattern disruption, it isn't gonna hurt your gun.

                          Tubes breaking/shooting off isn't all that rare. Higher grade hulls is a solution. Of the valupack stuff, I think the Fed Top Gun is a little better. Remington doesn't have anything in that price point.
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                          • #14
                            bigbearbear
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 5378

                            Originally posted by d33pt
                            That's the one walmart sells right? I probably have about 1000 rounds through my shotgun with no problems. I have 500 left, hopefully they will be ok too.
                            Originally posted by sandiego67
                            If you are buying them from WalMart (like I do), they don't have much time to go bad. Brittle plastic would seem to indicate age or heat.

                            WalMart blows through so many cases of these that they probably don't get stale on their shelves.

                            I have shot several thousand rounds over the past 9 months with no issues.

                            Yeah, I got those from Walmart. If you're in Milpitas Walmart and see this couple gleefully loading the shopping cart full of shotshells, that's probably me and my wife.

                            It might just have been bad luck on my part. I've put something around 25k rounds through my shotgun so far and this is the 1st time I've had something like this happen. So statistically speaking, chances of it happening to you too is fairly small.

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                            • #15
                              bigbearbear
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 5378

                              Originally posted by JagerDog
                              Aside from possible pattern disruption, it isn't gonna hurt your gun.

                              Tubes breaking/shooting off isn't all that rare. Higher grade hulls is a solution. Of the valupack stuff, I think the Fed Top Gun is a little better. Remington doesn't have anything in that price point.
                              Good to know this JD. I was worried that this might turn my shotgun into a pipe bomb.

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