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  • Donny1
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2341

    New stock for 870

    I have an old 12 ga 870 and the stock is broken.

    Looking for a simple replacement with some reduction in recoil. The original wood furniture with the hardened piece of what used to be rubber is just painful and not fun to shoot, especially for my wife.

    Looking at recoil reduction stocks, reading reviews, etc. Pro's, Con's to all of them. Is it worth the extra money for the Knoxx SpecOps (the gen 3 is not supposed to cheek slap like gen 2) or one of the other systems, Phoenix, or should I just go stock with a good recoil pad?

    Don't mind spending a little extra if it really works to reduce the recoil some.

    Thanks for any input.
  • #2
    LordThrash
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 32

    I like the standard looking hogue set
    Hogue Rubber OverMolded Stock and Forend Remington 870 12 Gauge Synthetic Black

    -Rob

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    • #3
      Thanatos2203
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1200

      I would avoid any products with Knoxx on the box and almost any product produced/resold by Blackhawk.

      If you want real recoil reduction, I think it would be hard to compete with a limbsaver recoil pad. They make several models and one should be compatible with your shotgun. Since your stock is broken, you could get a OEM wood set (factory take off on ebay) or an OEM synthetic stock set and simply upgrade to the limbsaver pad with a couple of screws.

      The Hogue mentioned above is a good option, I have had good luck with that particular stock, and if you like a shorter LOP you can get the youth model. I love their forend too.

      The Magpul SGA stock also has a pretty heavy duty rubber butt pad and you can adjust the LOP your self. I admittedly have only used mine with target loads but it just got switched over to my new 870 which has HD in mind.

      If you like pistol grip stocks the Mesa Tactical Urbino stocks are available, and you can get a model with a pre-fit limbsaver recoil pad mentioned above. A little pricier but may suit your needs and preferences.
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      • #4
        BOBGBA
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2010
        • 2390

        I have replaced the Remington factory recoil pads on 870s with the Remington SuperCell pads and I think they work great. Cost less and felt better than Limbsaver or Remington R3 pads that I had tried.
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        • #5
          Win231
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2015
          • 2099

          I replaced the stock on my Vang Comp 870 with a Choate Pistol Grip. It came with a great recoil pad.

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          • #6
            Donny1
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 2341

            Originally posted by LordThrash
            I like the standard looking hogue set
            Hogue Rubber OverMolded Stock and Forend Remington 870 12 Gauge Synthetic Black

            -Rob
            Do you think the recoil pad compares to the others mentioned? LS, SuperCell, etc.

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            • #7
              Thanatos2203
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1200

              Originally posted by Donny1
              Do you think the recoil pad compares to the others mentioned? LS, SuperCell, etc.
              I would put Limbsaver > Hogue > Supercell.

              I had a Supercell on a .270 and thought it was trash. Punched my already repaired shoulder and made it uncomfortable to shoot. Swapped it for a Limbsaver and was able to shoot all day no problem.
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              • #8
                rb765
                Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 466

                Originally posted by Thanatos2203
                I would avoid any products with Knoxx on the box and almost any product produced/resold by Blackhawk.

                If you want real recoil reduction, I think it would be hard to compete with a limbsaver recoil pad. They make several models and one should be compatible with your shotgun. Since your stock is broken, you could get a OEM wood set (factory take off on ebay) or an OEM synthetic stock set and simply upgrade to the limbsaver pad with a couple of screws.
                I traded a part I had extra for a Knoxx stock for my 870. I was very disappointed in the recoil reduction part. It looks nice, but the recoil reduction is nowhere near what was advertised.
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                • #9
                  Thanatos2203
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1200

                  Originally posted by rb765
                  I traded a part I had extra for a Knoxx stock for my 870. I was very disappointed in the recoil reduction part. It looks nice, but the recoil reduction is nowhere near what was advertised.
                  Yea, seems like the whole idea is kind of hokey to me and I don't like things moving towards my face that don't need to be. A good quality recoil pad on a solid stock with a little bit of technique go a long way towards felt recoil reduction.
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                  • #10
                    rb765
                    Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 466

                    My son is a bit recoil shy, so I jumped on the opportunity to help. I have owned this shotgun for 30 years and it's taken it's share of varmints around the farm. The new stock was also a way to bring new life into this old workhorse for city life.
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                    • #11
                      BOBGBA
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 2390

                      Check ebay for a replacement stock. You might be surprised.

                      Does anyone know if it's a fair comparison for how a recoil pad works on a 12 gauge vs. a .270? Rifle powder vs Shotgun powder (different burn rates)? I thought the SuperCell was an improvement on the shotgun.
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                      • #12
                        Thanatos2203
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1200

                        Originally posted by rb765
                        My son is a bit recoil shy, so I jumped on the opportunity to help. I have owned this shotgun for 30 years and it's taken it's share of varmints around the farm. The new stock was also a way to bring new life into this old workhorse for city life.
                        If it works, then it works, but seems like you weren't that happy with the outcome. Even if you are not recoil shy or a child, 12ga can be punishing.


                        Originally posted by BOBGBA
                        Check ebay for a replacement stock. You might be surprised.

                        Does anyone know if it's a fair comparison for how a recoil pad works on a 12 gauge vs. a .270? Rifle powder vs Shotgun powder (different burn rates)? I thought the SuperCell was an improvement on the shotgun.
                        That's a good question, I would imagine that the .270 would recoil faster than the 12ga so maybe in that specific application the Supercell is a good choice? I thought the Supercell was kind of foamy and didn't compress very much to spread out the recoil impulse where limbsaver seems to have more of a squishy, compressible rubber. I have heard a lot of good things about the Supercell, my limited personal experience simply hasn't matched.
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                        • #13
                          strongpoint
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 3115

                          New stock for 870

                          Originally posted by Thanatos2203
                          If you like pistol grip stocks the Mesa Tactical Urbino stocks are available, and you can get a model with a pre-fit limbsaver recoil pad mentioned above. A little pricier but may suit your needs and preferences.


                          If you're discussing recoil reduction, pistol grips and Mesa Tactical in the same sentence, the product recommendation should begin and end with Mesa's hydraulic stock kit. Not sure if OP wants to go that far, but it completely erases most of the felt recoil at the shoulder.
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                          • #14
                            Shrubmaster
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 1359

                            Originally posted by strongpoint
                            If you're discussing recoil reduction, pistol grips and Mesa Tactical in the same sentence, the product recommendation should begin and end with Mesa's hydraulic stock kit. Not sure if OP wants to go that far, but it completely erases most of the felt recoil at the shoulder.
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                            • #15
                              Donny1
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 2341

                              Originally posted by strongpoint
                              If you're discussing recoil reduction, pistol grips and Mesa Tactical in the same sentence, the product recommendation should begin and end with Mesa's hydraulic stock kit. Not sure if OP wants to go that far, but it completely erases most of the felt recoil at the shoulder.
                              I hope it works at that price. I think I would have to try one before spending that much.

                              As usual asking questions leads to more questions. I have shot a pistol grip only shotgun, not a tactical one like the AR type. I'm sure there is no real comparison between the AR recoil vs a shotgun so I'm not sure I would even like that on the 870.

                              I am leaning toward a used stock and a LS for now until I try out some friends toys.

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