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  • ChefRob13
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 277

    pump vs over under

    looking to purchase my first hunting shotgun.

    I am stuck between pump and over under. $emi auto is out of my price range.

    how often do you really get more than two shots off when hunting upland or waterfowl?
    is the reloading of an over under enough to want to rather use a pump

    is the speed of an over under that much greater?

    what would you choose first. (eventually ill probably get both)
  • #2
    GlockN'Roll
    Veteran Member
    • May 2015
    • 3693

    I went with a pump for my first shotgun.

    I went with a pump for my first shotgun.

    No regrets.

    Several excellent choices ...
    Real Californian...

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    • #3
      repomanNWP
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 1058

      I know you gave us a choice of pump or o/u, but I have to go off the reservation here and say semi-auto. I just don't think you can beat a semi-auto for hunting, its good in all conditions, all types of game. Sure, you can pick up a Remy 870 for cheap, but decent semi's aren't that much more, especially used. [full disclaimer, I'm selling a semi auto now, but I would still answer the same if I wasn't].

      I own all three types of shotguns, and I reach for one of my semi's 9 times out of 10.
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      • #4
        Fjold
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Oct 2005
        • 22923

        Usually the only time when you have to get more than two shots off is when you're hunting waterfowl or doves, then you're limited to three.

        The advantage of a double over a pump is that it's easier to stay on target for the second shot because you're not jerking the gun back and forth, working the action.
        Frank

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        • #5
          JohnCCW
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 1307

          The heavier O/U helps me with follow through on fast moving Doves.
          I hunt with a Browning Citori Trap with 30" barrel.
          For Quail, I prefer a lighter semi-auto, a Benelli M1. Quicker to the shoulder and one extra shot on the slower flying birds.

          My first shotgun was 12Ga Mossberg pump. Served me well for many years, when I also used to hunt Waterfowl, and Pheasant.

          What O/U are you looking at that is cheaper than semi-auto's?
          Last edited by JohnCCW; 10-14-2015, 10:54 AM.
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          • #6
            DennisCA
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 4036

            Originally posted by ChefRob13
            looking to purchase my first hunting shotgun.

            I am stuck between pump and over under. $emi auto is out of my price range.

            how often do you really get more than two shots off when hunting upland or waterfowl?
            is the reloading of an over under enough to want to rather use a pump

            is the speed of an over under that much greater?

            what would you choose first. (eventually ill probably get both)
            Here is my two cents in a nutshell:
            Over&Under - 2 Shots/then you reload/Fairly Expensive/Choices Limited

            Pump-Action - More than 2 shots/Fairly INExpensive/Choices Many

            BTW - I have two Mossberg shotguns: (same model) One a 12ga and one in a 20ga.
            Had them for years - zero failures
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            • #7
              RedFord150
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2009
              • 5665

              Originally posted by ChefRob13
              ...I am stuck between pump and over under. $emi auto is out of my price range....
              ^^^A decent O/U is generally a lot more expensive than a Semi-Auto.

              Lots of good semi-autos are well under $1K. A good O/U is generally a lot higher than $1K.

              Go visit http://www.pacificsportingarms.com/ in Azusa and let John (the owner) help you find the best gun for your needs. Action is important. Fit is more important.

              Good luck.
              Last edited by RedFord150; 10-14-2015, 11:05 AM.
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              • #8
                ChefRob13
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 277

                Should I not get an over under under $400 maverick

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                • #9
                  CaptnCaveman
                  Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 232

                  My first shotgun purchase for hunting was a cheap o/u, and now after hunting duck, quail, and dove, I'll be buying a semi auto...once I save up my pennies.

                  I say go with a pump if you say semi auto is out of your price range, because a good o/u is probably up there also. Weatherby SA-08 is less expensive than most o/u. A 3rd shot for ducks is nice to have.

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                  • #10
                    JohnCCW
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 1307

                    Originally posted by ChefRob13
                    Should I not get an over under under $400 maverick

                    Skip to 1:50 into the video.

                    I wouldn't buy that. Get a decent pump, not a terrible O/U.

                    I waited a long time before I bought an O/U. So I wanted to get a nice one.
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                    • #11
                      gorgo331
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 58

                      I have both and use them for different hunting conditions. If I'm out in the duck boat and drop a shotgun in a half frozen pond at 5:30 in the morning, I don't want it to be my Beretta Silver Snipe. If we're dove hunting on the high desert and I can see where I'm walking, the O/U is my choice. Years ago I was out shooting dove with a friend of mine. He had a beautiful Krieghoff over and under and I asked him what the practical difference was between my Charles Daly and his shotgun. He said "The only difference is when mine breaks, it costs more to fix it". Something I have always kept in mind when choosing a weapon for a particular task.

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                      • #12
                        RNE228
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 2458

                        Kinda funny, my Dad's first shotgun was a 12Ga Mossberg bolt action!

                        That shotgun actuually swings and shoots reall ynice. Working that big ole bolt takes a bit of time though

                        Originally posted by JohnCCW
                        My first shotgun was 12Ga Mossberg pump. Served me well for many years, when I also used to hunt Waterfowl, and Pheasant.

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                        • #13
                          RNE228
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 2458

                          There are tons of choices in O/U. Problem is, besides a limited few entry level guns, they sky rocket in price.

                          FWIW, I have shot a lot of duck and turkey with a Mossberg 835 pump. It is kinda rattly and clunky, but it just keeps working. Never a misfire or misfeed in the field.

                          Originally posted by DennisCA
                          Here is my two cents in a nutshell:
                          Over&Under - 2 Shots/then you reload/Fairly Expensive/Choices Limited

                          BTW - I have two Mossberg shotguns: (same model) One a 12ga a
                          Had them for years - zero failures

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                          • #14
                            Thefeeder
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 5007

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                            Try different shotguns....buy the one you can mount quickly and hit flying targets with. All the rest is secondary.

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                            • #15
                              fritztkatt
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 1061

                              Uneducated opinion: grab your choice of pump, and spare barrels/chokes. Likely the best option. It'll do you just fine, and won't cost you more to fix or replace. You won't cry when it gets knocked off the boat, dropped in mud and rocks, or gummed up with camo tape goo from a turkey hunt.

                              If you have the higher budget, a good semi, which I admittedly know nothing about semi shotguns... I'm sure a budget semi would work just as well as a pump, with only a slightly greater chance of malfunction from field use.

                              Then I'd save up for a nice o/u, as a clays, gentle field, or show piece.

                              I'll drop my 590 in the mud or off a boat and not give the south end of a north facing donkey. As long as I can retrieve it LOL. A decent semi, I'd probably curse up a storm but press on. Now a beautiful break action... I'd cry.

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