Where to buy Benelli M4?

[SubSolar]

Just wondering what dealers had M4's in stock. Seems like everywhere is sold out of them. Checked online and Turner's. Turner's even said they are not going to be carrying Benelli's at all anymore, just going to sell what they have and not restock.

[randy]

I always find it lame when some one asks where to buy something and not put down the area where they live.

If you live in Red Bluff would you care if they had one in Mesa?

[SubSolar]

Sorry, I live in Corona but anywhere in Socal is fine. And of course mail/Internet.

[AR-Ballistic]

Hey bro , your questions fine. I would try GUNBROKER. These are really getting hard to get. Why pay a premium at a local gun store. Just make sure you get a Cali friendly Benelli M4 meaning no collapsible stock and mag tube limiter. Good luck and post picks when you get it

Here's one that's ending soon:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=116932799

[ke6guj]

Just make sure you get a Cali friendly Benelli M4 meaning no collapsible stock and mag tube limiter.

Whats that? The M4 appears to come with 4+1 mag capacity, and the only limits that I am aware of on a tube-fed shotgun is that you don't go over 10-rounds in the tube, which would need a very long barrel to look right.

You're correct on the no collapsible stock w/pistol grip. Regular stock with pistol grip is fine.

[AR-Ballistic]

Whats that? The M4 appears to come with 4+1 mag capacity, and the only limits that I am aware of on a tube-fed shotgun is that you don't go over 10-rounds in the tube, which would need a very long barrel to look right.

You're correct on the no collapsible stock w/pistol grip. Regular stock with pistol grip is fine.

You can buy a Benelli M4 with a FULL LENGTH MAG TUBE installed on it after market which would make it NOT LEGAL in Cali.Correct me if I am wrong but if the shotgun has a PISTOL GRIP you cannot exceed the 4+1 capacity. As long as it has the factory mag tube with limiter on it you are good go. I am just pointing out that fact.

[ke6guj]

You can buy a Benelli M4 with a FULL LENGTH MAG TUBE installed on it after market which would make it NOT LEGAL in Cali.

not aware of any limitation on tube-fed shotguns other than what I mentioned above.

Correct me if I am wrong but if the shotgun has a PISTOL GRIP you cannot exceed the 4+1 capacity. As long as it has the factory mag tube with limiter on it you are good go. I am just pointing out that fact.

there is no limitation in the CA AW regs for pistol grip plus more than 4+1.

12276.1(a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
(6) A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
(A) A folding or telescoping stock.
(B) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.
(7) A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.
(8) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Now, there may be federal sporting regulation import regulations, 922(r), that would limit you to 4+1 with a PG, but that would be nationwide. And if you replace a certain number of imported parts iwth US-made parts, 922(r) does not apply and you can go as big as you want on the mag tube (limited to 10 in CA) and have the PG.

[AR-Ballistic]

not aware of any limitation on tube-fed shotguns other than what I mentioned above.



there is no limitation in the CA AW regs for pistol grip plus more than 4+1.




Now, there may be federal sporting regulation import regulations, 922(r), that would limit you to 4+1 with a PG, but that would be nationwide. And if you replace a certain number of imported parts iwth US-made parts, 922(r) does not apply and you can go as big as you want on the mag tube (limited to 10 in CA) and have the PG.

From 922r:

"(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the
action of the weapon;
(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine."

Yeah , I think it has something to do with 922(r). And as for adding the right amount of U.S. made parts on the Benelli I would have to look into the correct amount. By the way good info bro

[ke6guj]

From 922r:

"(D) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least 2 of--
(i) a folding or telescoping stock;
(ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the
action of the weapon;
(iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds; and
(iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine."

actually, that is from the expired FED AW ban.

Yeah , I think it has something to do with 922(r). And as for adding the right amount of U.S. made parts on the Benelli I would have to look into the correct amount. By the way good info bro

Here's 922(r)

The Imported Parts Law (1990)

(178.39 otherwise known as 922(r) 10 Foreign parts law on semiauto Rifles & Shotguns)

Sec. 178.39 Assembly of semiautomatic rifles or shotguns.

(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.

(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:

(1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof; or

(2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the provisions of Sec. 178.151; or

(3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported into or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the replacement of any part of such firearm.

(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts are:

(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings
(2) Barrels
(3) Barrel extensions
(4) Mounting blocks (trunions)
(5) Muzzle attachments
(6) Bolts
(7) Bolt carriers
(8) Operating rods
(9) Gas pistons
(10) Trigger housings
(11) Triggers
(12) Hammers
(13) Sears
(14) Disconnectors
(15) Buttstocks
(16) Pistol grips
(17) Forearms, handguards
(18) Magazine bodies
(19) Followers
(20) Floorplates

Basically, ATF will not allow Benelli to import M4s if they have a PG and more than a 4+1 capacity. So anything more than that is unimportable. I don't know which items an M4 has, so how many parts would need to be replaced, I dunno. But I do recall at least one vender offering or planning on offering US-made Benelli replacement parts to satisy 922(r).

[AR-Ballistic]

actually, that is from the expired FED AW ban.




Here's 922(r)

Basically, ATF will not allow Benelli to import M4s if they have a PG and more than a 4+1 capacity. So anything more than that is unimportable. I don't know which items an M4 has, so how many parts would need to be replaced, I dunno. But I do recall at least one vender offering or planning on offering US-made Benelli replacement parts to satisy 922(r).

So is it legal to add a full length mag tube to the Benelli M4 without adding the 10 US parts?

[ke6guj]

There are no CA or Fed AW regulations that would prohibit it, so you just have 922(r) to deal with. Replacing the mag tube should be legal if you have no more than 10 of the listed foreign parts. Its not that you have to have 10 US parts, its actually not more than 10 foreign parts. It may be 2,3,4,5 parts you have to replace with US made, I dunno about the exact count.

[BlackRifle24]

Thats a dumb law. It would be nearly impossible for a LEO to ascertian the origin of small parts like springs sears followers etc.

It makes me sick that we pay people to come up with this sh*t.

[SubSolar]

Yeah, saw them on gunbroker but they are like $1800! They use to be $1549 at Able Ammo. I may have to settle for a Remington 1100 Tac 4 or a Benelli M2 Tactical. Heck, I can buy both of them for about the same price as the M4 is now.

[SubSolar]

Well, I called all the gun shops in the dealer locator search function on Benelli's website in a 60 mile radius from me. No one had any M4's. The comments ranged from "at least 60 days to get one" to "I've heard more should come in about June" to "good luck getting one!"

A few places did have the camo version but I want a black one.

[Jeffy]

Have a Dealer order you one. Or else check gunbroker.com. An Authorized Dealer should at least be able to get you MAP.