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  • LowThudd
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 3608

    DP-16 Double Barrel pump

    Have you seen this thing? Pretty wild range toy. I wonder about CA law though, I can't think of how it might be illegal.
    Standard Manufacturing is a firearm's company specializing in the production of top-quality tactical and classic firearms, including the DP-12 Shotgun.


    Last edited by LowThudd; 06-17-2015, 11:08 PM.
  • #2
    billofrights
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Oct 2012
    • 2343

    Each trigger pull only fires one shell, so there's no reason it isn't CA legal, just like the KSG or UTS-15.

    I thought when they were announced they were supposed to be an exclusive through CTD, and that turned off a lot of people.

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    • #3
      Josh3239
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2006
      • 9200

      That is actually really interesting.

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      • #4
        Librarian
        Admin and Poltergeist
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 44697

        Originally posted by billofrights
        there's no reason it isn't CA legal, just like the KSG or UTS-15.
        This is probably correct but
        Originally posted by billofrights
        Each trigger pull only fires one shell,
        this ^^^ is not the reason. That means it's not full-auto, which might be a CA and Federal problem.

        CA appears to be treating such configurations as distinct 'ammunition feeding devices'; since neither exceeds 10, so far no objections are made.
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        Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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        • #5
          LowThudd
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 3608

          Originally posted by Librarian
          This is probably correct but
          this ^^^ is not the reason. That means it's not full-auto, which might be a CA and Federal problem.

          CA appears to be treating such configurations as distinct 'ammunition feeding devices'; since neither exceeds 10, so far no objections are made.
          Right. My concern is that they may see it as 'semi auto' between the barrel shots. But, they would have to make a new rule for this particular shotty. Which of course they have done before with the Franchi Spas.

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          • #6
            Merc1138
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19742

            Originally posted by LowThudd
            Right. My concern is that they may see it as 'semi auto' between the barrel shots. But, they would have to make a new rule for this particular shotty. Which of course they have done before with the Franchi Spas.
            How would they see it as semi auto? The trigger appears to operate just the same as a mechanical trigger(as opposed to an inertia trigger, and there is a difference) on an OU or SxS.

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            • #7
              elSquid
              In Memoriam
              • Aug 2007
              • 11844

              Call me a traditionalist, but "bang-bang-pump" just seems morally wrong to me.



              -- Michael

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              • #8
                Steve_In_29
                Banned
                • Nov 2009
                • 5682

                Interesting but not sure if it's $1300's worth of interesting. Basicly a magazine fed, pump-action side-by-side.

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                • #9
                  Sir Toast
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 3140

                  Pretty cool. I like it.

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                  • #10
                    altezza0927
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 84

                    Pricey, been waiting for a YouTube review on it.

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                    • #11
                      Merc1138
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 19742

                      Originally posted by Steve_In_29
                      Interesting but not sure if it's $1300's worth of interesting. Basicly a magazine fed, pump-action side-by-side.
                      Well, if you don't mind the extra trigger you could just make yourself a remington 1740

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                      • #12
                        Steve_In_29
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 5682

                        Originally posted by Merc1138
                        Well, if you don't mind the extra trigger you could just make yourself a remington 1740

                        I wouldn't own that if it was free!

                        The adage, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should" comes to mind.

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                        • #13
                          G.F.C.
                          Member
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 257

                          I REALLY like the idea of these, but the price point just doesn't work for me. They were introduced at shot show earlier and only through CTD. At that point I decided it would never be an option. Even though it's through another dealer it still isn't... $1400 + transfer fees + DROS + tax?

                          No thanks, I'll get a 930 or, at this point a BR1919, since even that would be more affordable.

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                          • #14
                            hermosabeach
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 19892

                            I don't see a problem that it solves.

                            Under stress, your skills suck

                            Did I pull the trigger twice?
                            Do I need to run the slide?
                            Or do I need to fire again?

                            Is racking more difficult as I am extracting 2 shells, ejecting 2 shells and loading 2 shells?

                            If you are use to a pump, this thing might drive you nuts.
                            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                            • #15
                              fffblackmage
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 55

                              ^You ought to be training with your gun, so when you're under stress, muscle memory takes over. It really doesn't matter if it's bang-bang-pump instead of bang-pump. Know your gun.

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