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  • #46
    Sheepdog1968
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 1889

    Originally posted by DevilDawgJJ
    The last 3 would only be the ones I would change out. But mine is stock. That whole 922r is BS. Who has ever been arrested because they changed out one part and not 2 others?
    Cost of an attorney far exceeds cost of the other two parts. I'm in my mid 40s and no longer want to take unnecessary risks.
    RIP Louis Awerbuck. I miss you and your training.

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    • #47
      CandG
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      • Apr 2014
      • 16970

      Originally posted by therealnickb
      So, minor thread Jack... Who's got the best handgaurds for 922? I need to order some before reassembly.
      I installed the Surefire railed forend, and have no regrets. However, full disclosure, I never even fired my M4 with the factory handguard, so I can't provide an insightul comparison, all I can say is that I love the surefire grip - even though I have nothing attached to the rails. It feels great even with nothing but the provided rail covers, and gives the gun a good weight balance.

      Back to the topic at hand, great to hear you got your magazine off, OP! Now get that extended tube on there and give us all a range report!
      Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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      • #48
        CandG
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        • Apr 2014
        • 16970

        Originally posted by Sheepdog1968
        Cost of an attorney far exceeds cost of the other two parts. I'm in my mid 40s and no longer want to take unnecessary risks.
        Same here, except I may or may not be 1 part shy of compliance, since I have a Benelli c-stock. The item in question is a USA-made hammer. But after lots of reading, nearly ALL the USA-made hammers are identical to the factory variety, impossible to tell apart. If I did in fact buy a USA hammer, there's no way to know if it's in the gun or not. So for all intents and purposes, I'm compliant. It should also be noted that, as far as I know, 922r is not a firearm legislation (ie, BATFE), but rather a customs and imports duty legislation, and thus not really enforced on anyone other than MFGR's & importers.
        Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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        • #49
          fmxmyway
          Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 485

          Originally posted by cockedandglocked
          Same here, except I may or may not be 1 part shy of compliance, since I have a Benelli c-stock. The item in question is a USA-made hammer. But after lots of reading, nearly ALL the USA-made hammers are identical to the factory variety, impossible to tell apart. If I did in fact buy a USA hammer, there's no way to know if it's in the gun or not. So for all intents and purposes, I'm compliant. It should also be noted that, as far as I know, 922r is not a firearm legislation (ie, BATFE), but rather a customs and imports duty legislation, and thus not really enforced on anyone other than MFGR's & importers.
          People interpret these ridiculous legislative restrictions to the 2nd amendment as if they are the 10 commandments. The law is written like there is going to be a magical ATF fairy that temporary dissects and inspects your shotgun to see if your in compliance.

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          • #50
            shortround1
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 993

            Originally posted by cockedandglocked
            I installed the Surefire railed forend, and have no regrets. However, full disclosure, I never even fired my M4 with the factory handguard, so I can't provide an insightul comparison, all I can say is that I love the surefire grip - even though I have nothing attached to the rails. It feels great even with nothing but the provided rail covers, and gives the gun a good weight balance.

            Back to the topic at hand, great to hear you got your magazine off, OP! Now get that extended tube on there and give us all a range report!
            Due to a newly smashed thumb, I won't be at the range soon. But I can try to get a picture up soon on the finished product.

            Since I didn't yet know if I would use the cheek riser on the mesa or not I picked up the limbsaver buttpad with the little wings on it. I couldn't find a green one at the time hence the tan buttpad on my green stock.





            Last edited by shortround1; 04-01-2015, 12:25 PM.
            So um... moon labia or something.

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            • #51
              therealnickb
              King- Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2011
              • 8918

              Originally posted by cockedandglocked
              I installed the Surefire railed forend, and have no regrets. However, full disclosure, I never even fired my M4 with the factory handguard, so I can't provide an insightul comparison, all I can say is that I love the surefire grip - even though I have nothing attached to the rails. It feels great even with nothing but the provided rail covers, and gives the gun a good weight balance.

              Back to the topic at hand, great to hear you got your magazine off, OP! Now get that extended tube on there and give us all a range report!
              The surefire looked kind of heavy to me. I was digging the idea of lightening this puppy a bit. I'll check it out though before I decide. Thanks.

              And OP, Glad you got it off with only a smashed thumb.

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              • #52
                CandG
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                • Apr 2014
                • 16970

                Looks great. I can see the discoloration from the heat gun though, yikes. Should only be cosmetic though, and maybe there's a metal expert here who can help fix that? Or maybe now is a good time to cerakote the receiver OD green
                Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                • #53
                  CAL.BAR
                  CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5632

                  Originally posted by fmxmyway
                  People interpret these ridiculous legislative restrictions to the 2nd amendment as if they are the 10 commandments. The law is written like there is going to be a magical ATF fairy that temporary dissects and inspects your shotgun to see if your in compliance.
                  I know. I've been shaking my head (and posting about it) for years. A law never aimed at individuals, with NO State or local enforcement, and few (if any charges brought across the nation much less conviction for it is slavishly followed like it were brought down from the mountain by Moses by people who then go out a speed on the freeway and cheat on their taxes. Oh well. At least it keeps US parts makers in business.

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                  • #54
                    Killer Bee
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 2194

                    sup fellow m4 fans?!



                    starts about 1:10 [first minute is just some boring HK ]

                    I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it

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                    • #55
                      shortround1
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 993

                      Originally posted by cockedandglocked
                      Looks great. I can see the discoloration from the heat gun though, yikes. Should only be cosmetic though, and maybe there's a metal expert here who can help fix that? Or maybe now is a good time to cerakote the receiver OD green
                      Burnt bronze is trendy right now! Most people have to pay extra for it.
                      So um... moon labia or something.

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                      • #56
                        fmxmyway
                        Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 485

                        Just out of curiosity what if your rocking one of those non-pistol grip sporting stocks on your M4, would you be able to run a full mag tube without making your Benelli M4 a quasi parts puzzle?
                        Last edited by fmxmyway; 04-03-2015, 8:52 PM.

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                        • #57
                          Pearlpower
                          Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 185

                          Originally posted by shortround1
                          Burnt bronze is trendy right now! Most people have to pay extra for it.
                          Yep, did my FNX-45Tac slide in Burnt Bronze-Love it! Would look great on a M4 as well.
                          Last edited by Pearlpower; 04-03-2015, 10:10 AM.

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                          • #58
                            mavericksun
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 349

                            Originally posted by fmxmyway
                            Just out of curiosity what if your rocking one of those non-pistol grip sporting stocks on your M4, would you be able to run a full mag tube without making your Benelli M4 a quasi parts puzzle?
                            No. 922r is about the rule that foreign made guns can not have more than a certain amount of ammo capacity. It's why the M4 has only the limited tube because that is the only way it would be allowed to be imported into the US for consumer use. If the number of parts that are foreign made is over 10, then the firearm is considered "foreign". The whole point of the "parts puzzle" is to reduce the foreign parts count to 10 or less. As long as you are extending the capacity of the tube, it must be a non-"foreign" gun.

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                            • #59
                              CandG
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                              • Apr 2014
                              • 16970

                              Originally posted by fmxmyway
                              Just out of curiosity what if your rocking one of those non-pistol grip sporting stocks on your M4, would you be able to run a full mag tube without making your Benelli M4 a quasi parts puzzle?
                              Nope. The standard pistol-grip stock that comes on the M4 only counts as 1 part, as does the optional non-pistol-grip stock. The only way for it to count as 2 parts is if it a Benelli C-stock, which is why almost everyone buys a USA-made c-stock instead. I didn't, though, I like the Benelli one too much!
                              Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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                              • #60
                                CandG
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                                • Apr 2014
                                • 16970

                                Originally posted by mavericksun
                                No. 922r is about the rule that foreign made guns can not have more than a certain amount of ammo capacity. It's why the M4 has only the limited tube because that is the only way it would be allowed to be imported into the US for consumer use. If the number of parts that are foreign made is over 10, then the firearm is considered "foreign". The whole point of the "parts puzzle" is to reduce the foreign parts count to 10 or less. As long as you are extending the capacity of the tube, it must be a non-"foreign" gun.
                                Who came up with this insane law anyways? I mean, seriously, what were they trying to accomplish? Is it supposed to be some kind of patriotic thing, promoting USA-made products? Then why aren't we allowed to buy USA-made Glocks?

                                Edit: I know that was a lot of questions, but they were all rhetorical, not expecting anybody to answer them haha
                                Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do.


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