Question On .22lr Heavy Grain Ammo

[happyharold4]

What is the heaviest grain we can use in Ruger 10/22, Marlin 795 etc without causing any problems like in the attached article---I guess I'm looking for the most blunt, slug like load that performs like a mini shotgun with more tearing upon entry vs zipping right through---Thanks

http://www.gunnuts.net/2009/11/30/60-grain-22-lr-ammo/

Happy

[CSACANNONEER]

Well, it depends on the barrel's twist rate as well as the MV. You might just want to try standard (not subsonic) velocity 40 grain bullets. Other than that, your question is similar to asking which pit bike would be best in a stock car race. If you're looking for a .22lr shotgun, they exist too.

[TRAP55]

Those 60grn bullets will tumble and group like a shotgun pattern from a 10/22. They are primarily made for .22 adapters in AR-15's.
High velocity 40grn hollow point is your best bet.

[happyharold4]

Well, it depends on the barrel's twist rate as well as the MV. You might just want to try standard (not subsonic) velocity 40 grain bullets. Other than that, your question is similar to asking which pit bike would be best in a stock car race. If you're looking for a .22lr shotgun, they exist too.

I have some AE suppressors that are 45gr, 970fps subsonics---Would they be not good to shoot through the 10/22 and 795?

Happy

[SB1964]

970 FPS is a fairly slow subsonic speed. CCI standard velocity is about 1070 FPS, I've seen guns struggle to cycle that. Plenty of semi-auto .22's don't cycle subs very well. You'll have to try that particular round & see how your gun cycles them. For the average stock 10/22 I'm betting they wont cycle properly.

[Jimi Jah]

Aguila Super Sniper 60 grain are rather underpowered, just look at the .22 short brass casing. They tend to tumble out of my pistols and will have sideways impact holes at 7 yards. They do perform better with a .22LR bolt in my AR's, but the underpowered design can cause missfeeds.

10/22's, I wouldn't know, I don't have one.

[MongooseV8]

What is your target? A 22lr will not penetrate very far no matter the load. If you are shooting small critters the 36 grain mini mags are great. There are a lot of specialty loads as well for hunting.

[RAMCHARGER]

I shot the 40 grain standard velocity Aguilla's out of my Ruger MKIII pistol. WHile they did not cycle very well they did group a very very tight. Better than the the other stuff I shot out of it. Not that the other stuff (Mini Mags, Fed Champions, Remmy golden somethings all around 30 something grainers) did bad, in fact they were great out of the MKIII but the Aguilla made me say "WOW!" when I saw them hit the target. Dime sized groups campared to less that quarter sized groups onthe others at 25-30 feet.

[happyharold4]

What is your target? A 22lr will not penetrate very far no matter the load. If you are shooting small critters the 36 grain mini mags are great. There are a lot of specialty loads as well for hunting.

Sorry, most of you are avid target shooters---I have another thread up where I was trying to figure out how to use soda bottles with water and pumped in air as reaction targets---I had 65lbs of pressure but the 22 passed right through with no reaction, that's why I asked about heavier weight to get more of a tearing effect---Here I was trying to see if the heavier grain would due any damage to the 10/22 or 795 barrels.

Happy

[SB1964]

Those heavier bullets wont damage your barrel. That heavy bullet with a lot less velocity likely wont cycle though. Why bother, I read what your trying to accomplish. E=MC squared. You should be looking for a harder hit, 30% heavier bullet & less powder = less energy. You could try shotshells.

[SB1964]

I shot the 40 grain standard velocity Aguilla's out of my Ruger MKIII pistol. WHile they did not cycle very well they did group a very very tight. Better than the the other stuff I shot out of it. Not that the other stuff (Mini Mags, Fed Champions, Remmy golden somethings all around 30 something grainers) did bad, in fact they were great out of the MKIII but the Aguilla made me say "WOW!" when I saw them hit the target. Dime sized groups campared to less that quarter sized groups onthe others at 25-30 feet.

That "superextra" Aguila at 1020 is great ammo! Not sure if you used the same thing? I've yet to try anything slower than 1050 from my mk111, but I have it cycling very smoothly.

[RAMCHARGER]

That "superextra" Aguila at 1020 is great ammo! Not sure if you used the same thing? I've yet to try anything slower than 1050 from my mk111, but I have it cycling very smoothly.

YEA thats it Got it for my CZ 452 scout. Great stuff.

"Aguila SuperExtra Ammunition 22 Long Rifle 40 Grain Lead Round Nose Subsonic"

[MongooseV8]

For pressurized plastic bottles I would try a high velocity 36 grain hollow point if you are looking for that burst effect. Minimags, winchester super x, aguila suler ect would be some good ones to try. Anything with a round or closed nose bullet is just going to poke holes. The fast hollow points will break up or expand and will do a much better job of shredding your bottles.

[foesgth]

If you are looking to get the maximum impact damage for a .22 you may want to look at Paco Kelly's tools.

[3006]

Aguila Super Sniper 60 grain are rather underpowered, just look at the .22 short brass casing. They tend to tumble out of my pistols and will have sideways impact holes at 7 yards. They do perform better with a .22LR bolt in my AR's, but the underpowered design can cause missfeeds.

10/22's, I wouldn't know, I don't have one.

They penetrate 22 inch's of ballistic gel probably more then any 22 lr ? They can tumble but I get decent groups out to about 50 yards with my 52 it does have a long barrel so that might help.
I've shot a few out of my 10/22 they cycle the bolt fine. Never really test it for grouping.