22lr vs. windshield

[44fred]

Came across this while searching something else. You know how that is right?
Pretty interesting to know even a 22lr rifle can kill through an auto windshield.

http://youtu.be/yKFvrqCG118

[Shasta Frog]

Anything can kill at anytime provided the circumstance are right. .22 is no exception.

[John Joseph]

Depends on a lot of factors.
The old USAF 130 grain FMC .38 Spl has the dubious reputation for bouncing off auto glass.
Why would you want to shoot anyone driving a car anyway? If they were trying to run you down, shooting the driver at close range isn't going to stop the car, but shooting the engine might. Penetrating steel bodied automobiles & engine blocks & safety glass are why the .38 Super ACP and .357 S&W Magnum were developed.

[44fred]

Well aware a 22 can kill------ eventually.
Well aware that "old" tests with other more potent rounds can just skim off old design windshields.
I wonder if windshields are not as tough as they used to be. Gets me thinking if the research was done with current windshields, maybe the results would be different.
Why would I shoot someone at a moving car? Really? I hope I never have to.

[jyo]

Why would someone shoot at a moving car? Cops seem to do it all the time...

[jerhyn]

You're missing all the fun in my 22LR Lethality Discussion.

[ScatterShot]

Well aware a 22 can kill------ eventually.

With all due respect, this sounds about as ignorant as the ".22s aren't real guns" comment someone posted awhile back.

[makinthemagic]

Depends on a lot of factors.
The old USAF 130 grain FMC .38 Spl has the dubious reputation for bouncing off auto glass.
Why would you want to shoot anyone driving a car anyway? If they were trying to run you down, shooting the driver at close range isn't going to stop the car, but shooting the engine might. Penetrating steel bodied automobiles & engine blocks & safety glass are why the .38 Super ACP and .357 S&W Magnum were developed.

Shooting the engine won't do anything quickly enough to make a difference. If you can cause a coolant leak the car will overheat in a few minutes but that won't save you from being run over. I'd aim for the driver in any situation.

[CSACANNONEER]

Another stupid thread about how a .22lr isn't supposed to instantly kill. Guess what, a .22lr can instantly kill a human, deer, elk, etc. yet one can be hit with a 50BMG and survive. Yea, I knew a guy who came back from Korea with a half inch circular scar on his torso. He lived at least another 60 years after that. Of course, I've also watched a deer drop in it's tracks from a single round of .22lr fired from +100 yards away.

[Jimi Jah]

Shooting old cars in the desert showed me a .22LR will go through all of it except the engine block.

Those high velocity specials are lethal.

[aghauler]

With all due respect, this sounds about as ignorant as the ".22s aren't real guns" comment someone posted awhile back.

Correct it all depends on shot placement and area of penetration.

Not too long ago we had an "inhouse" shooting which involved a 22lr pistol. Victim took a single point blank shot to the right chest with exit wound directly through the right shoulder blade. Victim was alert and talking as we got in to the room. Victim was stabilized and transported to the trauma center, the patient expired three days later. This shooting occurred 45 feet from where I was sitting.

[Tarasdad]

Auto glass today is not the same as it used to be.

[MauserMike]

the thread is about a .22 going through a windshield and possibly killing, not the entire lethality of the round in every single situation. people get so butthurt so quick they just throw out some crap post about something that doesnt really have to do with the post.

BACK TO WHAT THE THREAD WAS STARTED FOR

yeah i didnt think a .22lr had the power to go through a windsheild. i imagine if there is an angle it will not make it through everytime, all up to physics and chance maybe just some of the projectile makes it through? but multiple .22lr shots will go through concrete so if you shoot the windshield accurately with semiauto fire i could easily see it effective on auto glass.

it is funny though larger more powerful round dont go through the auto glass effectively, maybe its the same concept as bullet proofing catching the blunt objects better even if they are moving faster.

[model63]

With all due respect, this sounds about as ignorant as the ".22s aren't real guns" comment someone posted awhile back.

When I was 16 and the two biggest things on my mind were girls and baseball. I had just pitched a game to my catcher, 18, on a Friday afternoon. By that night a single errant .22LR shot outside of a supposed 18 year old+ club... hit him under the left armpit, bounced around his rib cage and stopped his heart. He died instantly. He wasn't the intended target but that is all irrelevant. .22LR DO kill...just one is all it takes.

[mausercat]

Once again 22lr lethality shows that bullet placement is much more important than caliber. You must be careful of any firearm the golden bb can kill you.