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  • #16
    Sutcliffe
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2003
    • 6792

    Hogues aren't the lightest

    I think you could shave a quarter lb of total package by going with something else.

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    • #17
      MongooseV8
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 4426

      I've done a lot of research on lightweight 10-22's since I have a permanent back injury myself. Press Check has built the lightest rifle I have ever seen, including my own sub 4 LBS rifles.

      For a stock, I used a factory wood stock and cut chunks out where they weren't necessary and got my stock down well under a factory plastic stock.

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      • #18
        MongooseV8
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 4426

        For your viewing pleasure:

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        • #19
          BigJ
          Veteran Member
          • May 2010
          • 3172

          My wife just earned Rifleman with her 10/22 and I couldn't be more proud . Here are a few thoughts about the build she put together that might help:

          -she chose the Axiom stock because its light, and its adjustable. She really liked being able to dial in the LOP and "turkey neck" to scope eye position depending on the clothes she was wearing, and how she was feeling that day.

          -to keep things as light as possible, and yet flexible, she went with the Simmons 22 Mag scope: http://goo.gl/YpJ8YY. It has a good forgiving eye releif, and is pretty darn light relatively speaking.
          --one note on this: she also chose it because of its reticle. She looked thru all of my scopes and decided that simple is better for her style of shooting. With just a simple crosshair, she had less to focus on and to her eye the target was easier to focus on; less distraction.

          -she chose (and really ended up liking) your basic web nylon 1" sling. Same one found at the bottom of the page here: http://www.tech-sights.com/access.htm. Again very light.

          -As for barrels... she considered the Kidd ultra lightweight barrel (http://www.tech-sights.com/access.htm), but ultimately decided to run the standard pencil barrel that came with the rifle. No issues whatsoever, plenty light and far more accurate than you'll need at Appleseed.

          -One problem she found was that with the rifle being so light, a heavy/stock trigger pull REALLY played with her ability to hold the rifle steady in all three positions. So she went with a Kidd two stage set to 12oz/12oz and dropping that in immediately improved her accuracy (and enjoyment!): http://goo.gl/xmYrCM
          --she spent some time with a Kidd single stage first, but again with the rifle being so light she found that a 2 stage let her collect herself in position before actually having the rifle go boom. A single stage when set light enough for her in this light rifle tended to result in shots fired out of step from her "rifleman's cadence". Not so with a two stage.

          I don't have a scale sensitive enough, but all told if that gun weighs more than 5.5lbs I'd be really surprised.

          Hope that helps and enjoy the event! Here's hoping you and the lady score well!
          Last edited by BigJ; 04-29-2014, 3:02 PM.
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          • #20
            crob
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 515

            What about a rifle built off the AR platform? Polymer lower with an Ace ultralight and a TacCom feather ultralight upper would be pretty light I think. Not sure if it is ideal for an appleseed shoot, but it could be another option. No buffer/spring and the bolt itself is fairly light as well. Majority of the weight would be supported by her strong hand...

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            • #21
              MongooseV8
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 4426

              Any AR platform wont be lighter than 3.68lbs, but it is an option.

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              • #22
                FX-05 Xiuhcoatl
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 3162

                I got this stock for my son, at 18oz it's really light http://www.midwayusa.com/product/215...0-22-synthetic
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                • #23
                  crob
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 515

                  True, just thinking that the CF wrapped barrel with the CF handguard wouldn't be much weight for her left arm to support. Just attacking the problem from a different angle, shaving the weight where it needs to be shaved to address her issue.

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                  • #24
                    wamphyri13
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 2759

                    I agree with Merc on the Whistlepig barrels. Very light, lots of color and length options, and very accurate.
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                    • #25
                      AreWeFree
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 4558

                      Kestryll,

                      I think the OEM synthetic stock is as light as it gets. This is what I'm using at the moment and it's ok. I'm 5'10" and the length of pull is a little short so I'm looking to upgrade, but it may be the perfect stock for your wife.

                      You may want to add a recoil pad to it so it stays in the pocket better. I find that the synthetic stock slides around on my shoulder.

                      She would probably appreciate light elbow pads or even a small pillow for an Appleseed event, and definitely bring a padded shooting mat. It should add comfort and stability in prone and also help in the sitting position.

                      I also highly recommend getting a trigger upgrade. I went to an Appleseed over Easter weekend with a stock 10/22, no shooting mat, and bulk ammo. I shot horrible groups... 2 - 3" or more at 25yards I know, I know... no excuses I just sucked. I consistently shot a marksman score in the 145 - 155 range (highest I managed was 162, 8 shy of sharpshooter.)

                      Well I put in a Power Custom hammer/sear kit and went shooting today (first time since Appleseed) and I was getting 1" group standing and quarter size groups in prone. I realize a nice trigger is just hiding my own faults, but to me this was $60 very well spent.

                      Anyway, here's a link that may prove helpful for you:
                      With the coming of spring this year, it was time to break out the rifles and get out to the outdoor range. I began thinking that the 10/22 benchrest/target project i built last year was an amazingly accurate gun, but just so unweildy and totally overkill for a day of plinking. I mean, its setup...

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                      • #26
                        Ricky-Ray
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 3161

                        How about the Marlin 795? One of the ladies at the last rifle Women On Target had a shoulder injury too and was having a bit of a difficult time with the 10/22. We switched her to the 795 and she was much happier and was able to hold it without issues.
                        Ray

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                        • #27
                          cudakidd
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 3320

                          Can you use a bipod at a Appleseed shoot?

                          Heres my wifes, Note Whistlepig barrel...

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                          • #28
                            CenCalHobbist
                            Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 397

                            I would read through this thread. Press Check built a 10/22 that wieghs 59 oz.

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                            • #29
                              Merc1138
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 19742

                              Originally posted by cudakidd
                              Can you use a bipod at a Appleseed shoot?

                              Heres my wifes, Note Whistlepig barrel...
                              You could leave it attached, but it's just going to be in the way. Check the videos I posted above for what kind of shooting you do at appleseed.

                              Originally posted by CenCalHobbist
                              I would read through this thread. Press Check built a 10/22 that wieghs 59 oz.
                              The axiom weighs a couple ounces less than the factory stock. To be honest the weight on Press Check's build isn't really all that impressive since it all came from the barrel and not throwing a heavy optic on it. There's really only so few ways to shave weight from a 10/22(and a lot of ways to add weight). After the stock and barrel, all you really have left is the charging handle and guiderod(not exactly heavy), the receiver, trigger group, and bolt. The bolt you're kind of stuck with since it's a blowback, I'm not sure where you'd remove weight from the trigger group(certainly not the components themselves, and I haven't seen anything like a magnesium housing). Even the receiver has pretty much nothing to remove.

                              If kestryll hadn't mentioned the need for a magnified optic, you could save another ounce or two over the aimpoint by going with something like a burris fastfire mounted to a cutdown section of rail. But if Press Check's build was 59 ounces, and the axiom saves 2 ounces with the burris setup maybe saving another 2 ounces, that's really hardly anything. Short of going for a custom made CF stock(which would cost an arm and a leg) I just don't see how you can get it any lighter(well... an SBR but that's not really possible here).

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                              • #30
                                Press Check
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 4879

                                Originally posted by Merc1138
                                To be honest the weight on Press Check's build isn't really all that impressive since it all came from the barrel and not throwing a heavy optic on it.
                                What would be impressive, Merc, a barreled action housed within a skeletonized stock that no longer resembles a 10/22? If so, you should assemble one.

                                Yes, I could have saved 2oz with a less capable optic, and could have saved 2oz with an Axiom stock, which looks like an tacticool stock for a shotgun, but the goal was to go light without compromising the classic lines.

                                Considering the fact that a Kidd Classic rifle weighs 5lbs without an optic, a Tactical Solutions X-Ring rifle weighs 5.1lbs without an optic, and a Volquartsen Superlite rifle weighs 4.81lbs without an optic, I did exceptionally well at 3.68lbs with an optic, and again, without straying away from the classic look of a 10/22.

                                My rifle was not assembled or marketed to be "impressive," and what you "think" about it is of absolutely no consequence to me. I know you like to nitpick about everything, so feel free to carry on.

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