Stevens 87D has issues ejecting

[kygen]

Twice now I have taken the Stevens to the range, and it has done multiple FTE's/Jam's on a single 14 rd tube run through. I've ran remmington golden bullets, and Federal bulk through her, and still the same issue arises. Does anyone know what could be the cause of this?

[covingtonhouse]

Check for gunk in the ejector cut out on the breech face and behind the ejector itself where it sticks out of the bolt face. Also clean and lube the cartridge lifter/elevator at the action end of the tube magazine. Weak springs in either of these areas can cause problems also. If no one else comes along with some knowledge, check rimfire central in the savage forum. The bolt on an 87 should stay open on firing if you hold the trigger down. It will close once you release your trigger finger. If it fires and ejects in this way, its probably dirty. If it fires, and doesn't stay open, its probably recoil spring, or gunk behind the bolt.

['ol shooter]

Is the chamber squeaky clean, and dry? Every few hundred rounds, it's a good idea to brush out the chamber thoroughly, otherwise you will build up a ring of carbon and solids, locking the case into the barrel. A properly operating blowback rimfire doesn't even need an extractor to extract the spent case, it's there to hold the case so the ejector can eject the case. This is what my 10-22's get every few hundred, because I don't clean the barrels unless accuracy falls off.
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I also run spray dry lube in the actions of all my rimfires, no need to break them down to clean out that nasty "mud" that accumulates when using oil. Regards.

[kygen]

Check for gunk in the ejector cut out on the breech face and behind the ejector itself where it sticks out of the bolt face. Also clean and lube the cartridge lifter/elevator at the action end of the tube magazine. Weak springs in either of these areas can cause problems also. If no one else comes along with some knowledge, check rimfire central in the savage forum. The bolt on an 87 should stay open on firing if you hold the trigger down. It will close once you release your trigger finger. If it fires and ejects in this way, its probably dirty. If it fires, and doesn't stay open, its probably recoil spring, or gunk behind the bolt.

From what I noticed at the range today, after the trigger pull, and before the release, the bolt would stay back. Generally it was after the first shot that the FTE would happen, but as the day progressed, it became more frequent

[covingtonhouse]

From what I noticed at the range today, after the trigger pull, and before the release, the bolt would stay back. Generally it was after the first shot that the FTE would happen, but as the day progressed, it became more frequent

Have you tried various brands/types of ammo? I have ejection issues on a Marlin lever action when I use SK or Aguila ammo in it. I think it's due to a small difference in rim thickness than American manufactured ammo. It will run RWS stuff just fine, but any other euro stuff won't eject.

[kygen]

Have you tried various brands/types of ammo? I have ejection issues on a Marlin lever action when I use SK or Aguila ammo in it. I think it's due to a small difference in rim thickness than American manufactured ammo. It will run RWS stuff just fine, but any other euro stuff won't eject.

I have only used Federal Bulk, the light blue Federal pack (40 grain), and Remmington golden bullets, all have the same issues.

[cudakidd]

I have a 87 too. Clean the bolt and lightly Oil. Make sure the extractor is clean under the "hook" check for build up on the bolt face...

[kygen]

I worked on her for over an hour yesterday with wd40 and a toothpick. It looked like its previous owner(s) didn't even bother to clean her

[kygen]

So I had a decent first tube at the range today, 14 shots and no FTF/FTE. But after that, I started getting failure to eject, and failure to fire after the round was loaded into the chamber. Im going to switch out the extractor band and see if that helps with the FTE, but why wouldn't it fire once a round was loaded? (this happened multiple times, mainly after there was a FTE)

[covingtonhouse]

Strangley enough I just developed this problem on my 87 also. Seems the trigger needs to be really pulled back to fire. I took off the trigger group and cleaned it out. Upon putting back, I noticed thatbit would fire fine if the trigger group was left slughtly loose on the front screw. if I tightened it down all the way, back to the same problem. Couldnt leave it loose so I put two brass shims under the front screw. Seems to have helped, but still intermittent. Probably nott the way to go though. I was just dry firing on plastic snap caps.

[kygen]

Strangley enough I just developed this problem on my 87 also. Seems the trigger needs to be really pulled back to fire. I took off the trigger group and cleaned it out. Upon putting back, I noticed thatbit would fire fine if the trigger group was left slughtly loose on the front screw. if I tightened it down all the way, back to the same problem. Couldnt leave it loose so I put two brass shims under the front screw. Seems to have helped, but still intermittent. Probably nott the way to go though. I was just dry firing on plastic snap caps.

so the failure to fire was due to the tightness of the trigger group? Did you have any trouble with failure to feed/failure to extract?

[covingtonhouse]

so the failure to fire was due to the tightness of the trigger group? Did you have any trouble with failure to feed/failure to extract?

No. after the firing pin drops on a snap cap, it ejects and the next one loads when you cycle it manually. I haven't had a chance to live fire test it yet. Won't have any time for the range for about a month at this rate. I will tag and update if I get out any sooner.

[kygen]

So I believe the spring on top of the bumper is pretty dirty, could this be the cause of the extraction issues? And what would the best way to go about cleaning this be? It is a pretty small area, and a small spring. Possibly condensed air to blow the debris out?

[kygen]

So I swapped out the ejector band and the lifter spring, took it to the range today. Had about 10 good shots out of her, then the fte/ftf problem happened again. Fixed the jam, them tried shooting again, same issue. It seems like the spent casing is getting stuck in the chamber, and won't extract.

I figured near the end of the range trip, id try some federal thru her, since the m22 jammed up. Well, I loaded her up, and couldn't even pull the bolt back to charge the rifle. The round got stuck.

[Tom-ADC]

Don't have a link for you but check over at rimfire central they have a Savage/Stevens forum with much info on the 87. Mine likes Mini Mags