Opinions on complete KIDD rifle?

[Magix]

I'm about to "pull the trigger" on a customized Supergrade 10/22 build by KIDD Innovations. They are quite pricey but after all the great reviews I've read, I figure it'd be a nice self birthday gift. Plus a lot of fun!

Anyone own one of their complete rifles? I've read a lot of threads about their parts, but not many on their builds. This will be for range target fun only. Any pros or cons? Tips on what customizations are good or bad?

The big items I'm not certain about are:
-18" or 20" barrel...or does it even matter for 22LR at 50-100 yards?
-B&C Anschutz or McMillan STC stock? McMillan is pricier.
-Is there any real difference I'll notice between the Supergrade and Classic builds? Always nice to save a little coin.

Thanks for the help.

[Press Check]

I'm about to "pull the trigger" on a customized Supergrade 10/22 build by KIDD Innovations. They are quite pricey but after all the great reviews I've read, I figure it'd be a nice self birthday gift. Plus a lot of fun!

Anyone own one of their complete rifles? I've read a lot of threads about their parts, but not many on their builds. This will be for range target fun only. Any pros or cons? Tips on what customizations are good or bad?

The big items I'm not certain about are:
-18" or 20" barrel...or does it even matter for 22LR at 50-100 yards?
-B&C Anschutz or McMillan STC stock? McMillan is pricier.
-Is there any real difference I'll notice between the Supergrade and Classic builds? Always nice to save a little coin.

Thanks for the help.

Since a 22LR round reaches maximum velocity at about 16", I would not go longer than 18". Beyond that, the round will generally be slowed by friction, and the rules regarding diminishing returns apply.

One of the most significant and tangible differences between a Supergrade and Classic receiver is the fact that the barrel is screwed into the Supergrade action, whereas the Classic receiver barrels are slip-fit.

The stock depends on your budget. Personally, I do not like the Monte Carlo comb, so the McMillan would be a no-go for me.

As for the rifle itself, I think having one factory-assembled is nothing more than a novelty, but nothing to balk at. The assembly of a 10/22 is completely straight-forward, so I cannot imagine any proprietary techniques used, or advantages gained in having one assembled by a manufacturer. Eventually, the rifle will in fact be disassembled and reassembled by the end-user for cleaning.

[SirBoomsalot]

Take a look at Press Checks current build and you will know hes got a pretty good grip on 10/22's (sick! Cant wait for the next update) he is right on about the barrels, other threads show the balistic charts.....as for a complete from Kidd I would say the advantage would be sending it back to them if you ever have issues.....but I doubt anyone has bad things to say about Kidd parts....I could not be happier with mine. Sooooo for meeee the fun was in putting it together myself and I know it saved me a lot of the coin you speak of....I also went cheep Grren Mountain barrel....heavy but at 50 yards I'm tearing through the same hole all day....

[SB1964]

I say go for it! I'd get the shorter barrel & make the proper stock choice. Stocks (& their fit) are very personal to me. I've bought plenty of rifles/pistols for my b-day! Happy birthday!

[Magix]

This is why I love this forum, fantastic information! Thanks for the advice Press Check! Your build thread looks amazing too. I wish my gunsmithing skills were good enough to do that.

I think I'll go ahead with the order since it takes 4-6 weeks just to build. Can't wait! Need to decide on the direction of the optics too.

[G21Shooter]

I don't own a Kidd rifle but I have been researching upgrading my 10/22 with all Kidd parts(and will after New Years).

Bottom line, Kidd produces some of the highest quality aftermarket 10/22 parts money can buy.

Buy, buy, buy!

[SilentPea]

I think the big difference on the supergrade is the barrel comes threaded to the receiver; the classic custom has 99% of the same options -- it just uses the standard slip in barrel+v-block attachment.

[vintagearms]

Kidd says their most accurate barrel is the 20 inch. With the super grade you don't have to worry about barrel droop. I think they are worth it

[Magix]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I just placed my order! Now the hard part...waiting!

How'd I do for my first KIDD rifle?

Custom Build 10-22 Rifle- Supergrade
Receiver color: Silver
MOA on base: 10 MOA
Rear Tang (added stability): Rear tang with stock inletting
Trigger unit: two stage silver with red straight trigger blade
Trigger pull weight: two stage 12oz/12oz= 1.5lbs
Magazine release lever: extended (medium)
Barrel option: 18" Match .920 Bead Blast
Muzzle threading: muzzle threading & cap
Bolt color & finish: silver scalloped
Cocking assembly handle color: Silver Round
Stock choice: Bell & Carlson Anschutz Black
Studs: Bi-Pod Stud

[Paperchasin]

I would've opted for the rear tang option and bedding option as well.

[Magix]

Oops, thanks for the reminder Paperchasin. Must have missed that when copy pasting.

Yes, it does have the Rear Tang with stock inletting option. Good catch!

[MongooseV8]

Great choice! Buy once cry once. I ordered a supergrade barreled receiver to go with all the other Kidd parts I have purchased over the years. You save money by purchasing the whole rifle and you know it will be assembled correctly, especially where the rear tang/inletting are concerned.

Now be sure to finish it off with a quality scope. I've seen way too many high dollar 10/22's topped with a BSA or equivalent scope lol.

[Magix]

Thanks Mongoose! I know what you mean about cry once but surprisingly this is one purchase where I don't feel that way. It's more excitement since I know KIDD will do an amazing job and it'll be worth every penny.

Definitely don't want to cheap out on the scope. I'm considering the Trijicon TR23-2G. Should be a perfect option of punching paper at 50-100 yards.

[ECVMatt]

That should be a sweet shooter. I put a Kidd bbl on my old 10/22 and it shoots into a single hole at 50 yards. I really like their stuff.

Post an update once you get the rifle.

[oddball]

I purchased two Supergrade completes a couple of years ago (one for my son) and it is my favorite rifle out of my collection. The fit and finish of the parts is night and day compared to Ruger parts, resulting in an extremely accurate rifle. My son, who used to shoot smallbore 4 position is just as precise with his Kidd compared to his bolt action Anschutz 1903 target rifle. Ordered them with Boyd SS Evolution stocks, which are very nice. We went with 20" match barrels; Tony Kidd told me they were his most accurate barrels in stock.

I decided to have Tony build the rifles since he is an excellent craftsman and smith when it comes to bedding and inletting; I have no experience in bedding receivers, and he's done a ton. He set-up the triggers also.

Yes, they cost way more than a Ruger, but they are not even in the same class. They are totally worth the money. Good luck and enjoy.