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  • 4D5auto
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 706

    S&W Serial Numbers

    Having a bit of a time trying to identify year of manufacture for a .22 Mag S&W revolver. I think it may be a pre 1957 but not sure. I say this because there are numbers in the Crane but not the typical model numbers you see now days, so I don't really know what the model number is. It appears to be a 6" bbl with adjustable sights on a J frame? I am purchasing this .22 from an Estate so I don't yet have it in my possession. I will try to get numbers from the Crane if this helps. Any ideas? Serial numer is K290***
    Thanks all.
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    003
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 3436

    The .22 WMR was introduced in 1959 by Winchester, so the revolver in question had to made made later than 1959.
    Last edited by 003; 11-04-2013, 10:47 AM.

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    • #3
      Canucky
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 4265

      If your a member of the High Road? You can ask in this thread.

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      • #4
        littlejake
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 2168

        Originally posted by 4D5auto
        Having a bit of a time trying to identify year of manufacture for a .22 Mag S&W revolver. I think it may be a pre 1957 but not sure. I say this because there are numbers in the Crane but not the typical model numbers you see now days, so I don't really know what the model number is. It appears to be a 6" bbl with adjustable sights on a J frame? I am purchasing this .22 from an Estate so I don't yet have it in my possession. I will try to get numbers from the Crane if this helps. Any ideas? Serial numer is K290***
        Thanks all.
        It's a K frame revolver. K290*** is early 1957 production.
        Last edited by littlejake; 11-04-2013, 11:05 AM.
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        • #5
          003
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 3436

          Littlejake brings up a good point. I have never seen a 6 inch J frame S&W revolver. Are you sure it is a J frame? or could it be a K? The S&W model 48 is the K frame .22 magnum.

          Update
          I just reread the original post. Given that the serial number starts with K, is a good indication that it is a K frame, either a model 48, or a pre 48.
          Last edited by 003; 11-04-2013, 11:04 AM.

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          • #6
            4D5auto
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 706

            The "K" is to the far left of the Butt followed by the serial to the far right. I will try to look at it again at lunch today and get bbl length.
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            • #7
              redcliff
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2008
              • 5676

              According to SCSW, .22 magnum K frame Model 48's came about in 1959 and started around serial #K348xxx and should have a model number in the crane.

              Your reported serial #K290xxx should be a 1957 K-frame and as noted the .22mag caliber wasn't available.

              The J-frame Model 51 came about in 1960 but I don't know that a 6" barrel was even offered.

              When you see it again be sure to check the serial number on the butt as cranes sometimes have "assembly" numbers and check under the extractor for a matching number on the cylinder.
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              "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
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              although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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              • #8
                4D5auto
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 706

                OK, numbers in the Crane is 8 0034, bbl from front to the frame is 5"

                Sooo, possibly a model 34?

                Nope, now believe it to be a model 48!
                Last edited by 4D5auto; 11-04-2013, 1:06 PM.
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                • #9
                  4D5auto
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 706

                  Looks like this
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                  • #10
                    4D5auto
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 706

                    [QUOTE=redcliff;12690274]According to SCSW, .22 magnum K frame Model 48's came about in 1959 and started around serial #K348xxx and should have a model number in the crane.

                    Your reported serial #K290xxx should be a 1957 K-frame and as noted the .22mag caliber wasn't available.

                    Serial # is correct as stated and bbl is likely a 6", 5" to frame, stamped .22 Magnum CTG. on the bbl.

                    The J-frame Model 51 came about in 1960 but I don't know that a 6" barrel was even offered.

                    When you see it again be sure to check the serial number on the butt as cranes sometimes have "assembly" numbers and check under the extractor for a matching number on the cylinder.[/QUOT]

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                    • #11
                      Mr. Beretta
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 6614

                      The serial # of the gun is the letter and #'s on the butt of the frame.

                      Call S&W customer service at 1 800 331 0852. When the recording comes on, press # 7 and speak to a rep. Give him the serial & he'll give you the date.

                      Good Luck.

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                      • #12
                        redcliff
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 5676

                        It's sounding like its been re-barelled to .22mag and the cylinder possibly swapped out or re-chambered.

                        ALL true model 48's should have the model stamped in the crane as they were produced only as "model number" revolvers after S&W adopted that system sometime in 1957. The fact that this appears to be a pre-model # frame, along with the apparently corroborating serial # that dates to 1957 indicates it didn't ship as a .22mag. Of course, errors are made at factories, frames could be misplaced and used at a later date, etc..

                        You could always spring for a research letter to be sure.
                        "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
                        "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
                        "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

                        "While Ruger DA revolvers may be built like a tank, they have the aesthetics of one also,
                        although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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                        • #13
                          2761377
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2013
                          • 2085

                          the part on a Colt known as a "crane" in S&W terminology is a "yoke".

                          pre-model number target K frames will be marked with the serial number at three places on the steel, and the inside of the right grip panel(aka stock).

                          the butt, which is the legal number; the barrel flat above the ejector rod and the rear face of the cylinder.

                          any deviation is a sign of non-originality.

                          further pedantry- after S&W assigned model numbers in 1957, the model and serial number were stamped on the frame's yoke cut-out.
                          Last edited by 2761377; 11-04-2013, 5:00 PM.
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                          • #14
                            GM4spd
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2008
                            • 5682

                            S&W yoke cut serial from 1961, Pete

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