Savage Mark II TR, what is left to make it better?

[2shotjoe]

I order a one piece rail mount and going to bed it to the receiver. What else is there to do?

[khw9mm]

Shoot it.

It's a great super accurate out of the box rifle. Did you get DIP base?

[2shotjoe]

Shoot it.

It's a great super accurate out of the box rifle. Did you get DIP base?

no?

EGW Savage Picatinny Rail Scope Mount, 0 MOA 41600

[bombadillo]

DIP bottom metal, DIP trigger guard, lighten trigger by about 3lbs or more, re-crown the barrel to put a good crown on it, get a good scope, make it look the way you'd likel

[2shotjoe]

DIP bottom metal, DIP trigger guard, lighten trigger by about 3lbs or more, re-crown the barrel to put a good crown on it, get a good scope, make it look the way you'd likel

It has an all metal trigger guard, acutrigger and target crown.

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[bombadillo]

The DIP bottom metal is WAY better than the factory piece of tin foil bottom metal the factory gun has. It will allow you to torque the gun properly to specs and get better groups out of it. Its about 3x the thickness of the factory one. Didn't realize it had the target crown though.

[Joefear7]

[2shotjoe]

The DIP bottom metal is WAY better than the factory piece of tin foil bottom metal the factory gun has. It will allow you to torque the gun properly to specs and get better groups out of it. Its about 3x the thickness of the factory one. Didn't realize it had the target crown though.

trigger guard is solid, bottom metal is 0.0355" thick. which dip bottom metal would i get, there are several listed?




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[bombadillo]

Grab this one: http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail....86942&CAT=3602 and torque to spec. It is seriously over twice as thick. Get a couple extra screws while you are there. I have one on my .17 and .22 and they are worth it.

[CWDraco]

The DIP bottom metal is WAY better than the factory piece of tin foil bottom metal the factory gun has. It will allow you to torque the gun properly to specs and get better groups out of it. Its about 3x the thickness of the factory one. Didn't realize it had the target crown though.

We have been over this. While it is 100% true, the thicker DIP manufacture plate allows you to apply a high torque on the receiver, Savage has repeatably stated its not really needed. This is a .22lr, not a 308. The factory plate with the factory torque is the spec.

You are simply doing nothing more then free floating a 14" or 16" AR15 and thinking its now more accurate.

I have a stock MKII-TR with $25 weaver rings and a $100 Banner muzzle-loader scope. I can easily hit a tennis ball suspended at 100 yards. I can walk shots into a GOLF BALL at the same distance.

My daughter, who had never shot an accurate rifle in her life, within 1 magazine was scoring 5/5 hits on a tennis ball at 50 yards.

No one has proven that adding a thicker plate with higher torque will increase a measurable amount of accuracy.

[2shotjoe]

14"? TR has a 22" heavy barrel.

[CWDraco]

14"? TR has a 22" heavy barrel.

If you are referring to my statement, I was talking about free floating a AR15 carbine, then saying its, "more accurate with the FF handguard".

I should have been clearer. Sorry. Just an FYI free floating a AR15 carbine gets you nearly nothing in terms of a gain in accuracy, yet all the cool guys do it

[vintagearms]

No one has proven that adding a thicker plate with higher torque will increase a measurable amount of accuracy.

I believe adding a thicker plate with the factory torque will help with repeatable proper torque. I don't believe you would get this from a flimsy stamped metal bottom plate.

OP, I took out my accutrigger and added the Rifle basix trigger. Made it lighter and still retain the safety.

[bombadillo]

We have been over this. While it is 100% true, the thicker DIP manufacture plate allows you to apply a high torque on the receiver, Savage has repeatably stated its not really needed. This is a .22lr, not a 308. The factory plate with the factory torque is the spec.

You are simply doing nothing more then free floating a 14" or 16" AR15 and thinking its now more accurate.

I have a stock MKII-TR with $25 weaver rings and a $100 Banner muzzle-loader scope. I can easily hit a tennis ball suspended at 100 yards. I can walk shots into a GOLF BALL at the same distance.

My daughter, who had never shot an accurate rifle in her life, within 1 magazine was scoring 5/5 hits on a tennis ball at 50 yards.

No one has proven that adding a thicker plate with higher torque will increase a measurable amount of accuracy.

I've absolutely seen positive results with the $20.00 DIP bottom metal. I have personally shot 2 different guns in different calibers and had repeatable results that were better using a stiffer bottom metal. One was on a boyds wooden stock, and one was on a plastic stock, and I didn't think it would be necessary on that one either.

Take that for whatever it means to you, but these were real world bench tests by yours truly, not some magazine measuring barely noticeable gains in the real world.

I could literally FEEL the wood crushing underneath the factory torques and they were by no means torqued to spec by the factory. They were hardly hand tight on the rifles that I purchased. I ended up changing my plastic stock out to the Boyds Tacticool stock, and threw a DIP bottom metal on that one too, and it worked out really well also. The factory metal on these rifles notoriously suck, and bend under the pressure of factory torque.

YMMV

[sofbak]

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Take that for whatever it means to you, but these were real world bench tests by yours truly, not some magazine measuring barely noticeable gains in the real world. ....

YMMV

You're waisting your bandwidth with this one. Far be it from us to enlighten the omniscient......

Yes, the factory bottom metal is way too thin-and is a problem independent of the amount of torque applied to the action screws. When I bought a pair of MK II's, there was no after market source for bottom metal and I didn't care to hack two replacements out of thicker steel. I used an alternate method of bedding and the results were substantial.

Golfballs at 100 yds? meh....out of the box any decent one will do that. And if that's good enough, then don't fix what isn't broke. But to tighten up groups-especially out at 100 yds, a change in bottom metal configurtion is definitely in order....

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