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  • rogervzv
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2087

    Range Report and Review -- CZ 455 American w/Nikon P22 Rimfire Scope

    I picked up a CZ 452 Ultra Lux a month ago, and did a range report. This weekend I picked up a CZ 455 American (I know, I did not need it -- but I wanted it ). I had read some internet chatter to the effect that the older 452s were "better." I am no expert, but I thought that I would give my very layman-like impressions.

    Fit and finish on the 455, in common with the 452 UL, is excellent. The 455 uses oak for the stock, so I think that it is fair to say that it is slightly "nicer" than the 455 UL, which is also quite nice. The rest of the fit-and-finish on the 455 seems every bit as good to my nonexpert eye as the 452. The bolt is very smooth, especially after a few tiny drops of Hoppes gun oil. To me, at least, if it is true that the 455 is going to replace the 452, it is a worthy successor and really not much different. Of course I am comparing the American 455 to the 455 Ultra Lux, so you can make whatever allowances for that that you care to.

    At the range the 455 shot great. I put a Nikon P22 Rimfire Scope on the American, and this seems to be a very nice combination. I was only able to get to a 25 yard indoor range this weekend, so this is perhaps not the most informative range/accuracy report in the history of this forum, but hey, I live in Democrat-occupied California. I was shooting Federal bulk .22LR by the way.

    Here is my review on Amazon of the P22. ("helpful" clicks on Amazon greatly appreciated; let Amazon know you read reviews of their gun products!!) http://www.amazon.com/review/R3TOYLW...cm_cr_rdp_perm

    The scope zeroed quickly and easily. The target on the left is one ten round magazine; the one on the right is 30 rounds. The "flyers" can be attributed to my highly caffeinated state -- I was shooting off a sandbag, not a vise.




    As probably all of you know, the 455 uses the same magazines as the 452, so I rotated all of my magazines through the rifle to make sure that there were no issues. Which there were not. The rifle performed absolutely 100% flawlessly
    Last edited by rogervzv; 09-22-2013, 8:40 AM.
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  • #2
    evolution1974
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 265

    You made an excellent acquisition. Your CZ 455 American stock is made of Turkish Walnut and the CZ 452 Ultra Lux is made of Beechwood. Both are nice but beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Most guns have preferences for different ammo when it comes to maximum performance. It is best to try out as many brands and types to see which each prefers (both bulk and match ammo). You made great choices when you picked up the 455 and 452. When it comes to old world craftmenship and aesthetics in a modern package they are the premiere choices in their price point. Enjoy your CZs and shoot safe.

    CZ 452 Trainer with Beechwood stock.



    CZ 452 FS with Turkish Walnut stock.

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    • #3
      BEE
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 2905

      Interesting..I'm actually in the market for a 452, if I had the 452 and 455 in front me to purchase which one would you suggest after doing this comparison?

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      • #4
        rogervzv
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2087

        Originally posted by BEE
        Interesting..I'm actually in the market for a 452, if I had the 452 and 455 in front me to purchase which one would you suggest after doing this comparison?
        Whichever one you can find. Seriously.

        The 455 does have the feature that you can change calibers by buying different barrels and magazines. (The .22WMR and .17HMR mags are the same though). I don't know how practical this really is since you doubtless would need to re-zero the rifle every time you swap barrels.

        As I opined in my review/report, I do not find there to be much difference as between the rifles. The actions and manual of arms are almost identical.

        Evolution, those are two nice looking CZs that you have. Here is my 452:
        Come and Take It!
        I'm the only hell my momma ever raised ...

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        • #5
          evolution1974
          Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 265

          Originally posted by BEE
          Interesting..I'm actually in the market for a 452, if I had the 452 and 455 in front me to purchase which one would you suggest after doing this comparison?
          The 452s are being replaced by the 455s so who knows how long CZ will continue to make the 452s. Most 452s have already been discontinued.

          There are many differences between the 452 and 455 (see link below). IMO the main advantage of the CZ 452 models with irons sights (excluding the 452 Scout) are the rear adjustable tangent sights.


          First off I want to let everyone know I started this as a side-by-side comparison only to realize that that would be a disservice to both the CZ 452 American we have all enjoyed over the years and to the New CZ 455 American. I think CZ missed the boat by calling the 455 a "replacement" to the...

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          • #6
            BEE
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 2905

            Yea what's drawing me closer to the 452 is the iron sights and minor details in construction of the rifle. I do have the opportunity to buy a new 452 and maybe impulse buy a 455 down the road as well

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            • #7
              rogervzv
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 2087

              Originally posted by BEE
              Yea what's drawing me closer to the 452 is the iron sights and minor details in construction of the rifle. I do have the opportunity to buy a new 452 and maybe impulse buy a 455 down the road as well
              Exactly what I did, and I am a happier man for it.

              Great article above about the differences between the two. I did not find anything particularly compelling one way or the other. Both of my CZs shoot really really well. The bolt actions are very smooth and precise and I get better groups than with any other .22 rifle I have.
              Come and Take It!
              I'm the only hell my momma ever raised ...

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              • #8
                G21Shooter
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 3577

                Nice looking rifles!

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                • #9
                  problemchild
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 6959

                  The 455 I got had issues and had to be returned. I just got it back and its working OK now with my quick test. Time will tell if its really fixed.

                  I have the 452 trainer (amazing tack driver) which shoots inside a nickel at 100 yards with walmart crap ammo and wind.

                  I also just got the 455 with 22wmr/22lr barrels. Both barrels shoot good and I need to fix the crappy trigger to see just how good. Both triggers on both guns need to be tweaked. I installed the "yo-dave" kit on the 452 and its a great trigger. I need to get one for the 455 now.

                  I shot both the 22/22wmr into a nickel at 50 with crap walmart ammo with the 455 so it should also be a tack driver when the trigger is fixed. I do not know if it will shoot as good as the 452 trainer though.

                  The Nikon scope I had was total crap and had to be returned. The glass was horrible. Probably the worst scope I have ever owned.

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                  • #10
                    whipkiller
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 3461

                    Originally posted by problemchild
                    The 455 I got had issues and had to be returned. I just got it back and its working OK now with my quick test. Time will tell if its really fixed.

                    I have the 452 trainer (amazing tack driver) which shoots inside a nickel at 100 yards with walmart crap ammo and wind.

                    I also just got the 455 with 22wmr/22lr barrels. Both barrels shoot good and I need to fix the crappy trigger to see just how good. Both triggers on both guns need to be tweaked. I installed the "yo-dave" kit on the 452 and its a great trigger. I need to get one for the 455 now.

                    I shot both the 22/22wmr into a nickel at 50 with crap walmart ammo with the 455 so it should also be a tack driver when the trigger is fixed. I do not know if it will shoot as good as the 452 trainer though.

                    The Nikon scope I had was total crap and had to be returned. The glass was horrible. Probably the worst scope I have ever owned.
                    Man, you seem to have gotten the rare bad apple(s) on a couple of products that are normally pretty darn good!

                    I can't help but wonder if it has anything to do with your screen-name.
                    Last edited by whipkiller; 09-23-2013, 10:38 AM.
                    Too many hobbies, Too little time.

                    Mind you, I'm 5'7", 180, with a visible Ab...

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                    • #11
                      problemchild
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 6959

                      Grade school insults? On topic?
                      Do tell..... what does some person at a 3rd world factory building crappy products have to do with my screen name?

                      Actually if you had chosen to search the topic I discussed instead of hurling grade school insults like a 2 year old you would have found plenty of people complaining about the nikon scope and numerous people with 455 issues as well. One person here 2 weeks ago was offering the fix for the 455 complete with pictorial on how to grind, drill and weld the gun to fix it. But you must have missed that while you were insulting other forum members.



                      Originally posted by whipkiller
                      Man, you seem to have gotten the rare bad apple(s) on a couple of products that are normally pretty darn good!

                      I can't help but wonder if it has anything to do with your screen-name.
                      Last edited by problemchild; 09-23-2013, 8:00 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Friar5119
                        Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 391

                        PC, I don't see that as an insult just merely a funny coincidence if you will. If it was problemfree child the whole situation would never have occurred

                        In all seriousness, your experience has made me consider not purchasing a 455 as my 452 is awesome.

                        If I could only find a 452 in wmr.....

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                        • #13
                          whipkiller
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 3461

                          Originally posted by problemchild
                          Grade school insults? On topic?
                          Do tell..... what does some person at a 3rd world factory building crappy products have to do with my screen name?

                          Actually if you had chosen to search the topic I discussed instead of hurling grade school insults like a 2 year old you would have found plenty of people complaining about the nikon scope and numerous people with 455 issues as well. One person here 2 weeks ago was offering the fix for the 455 complete with pictorial on how to grind, drill and weld the gun to fix it. But you must have missed that while you were insulting other forum members.
                          Oh good Lord, wound a little tight there buddy?

                          I was pretty sure that would be obvious to anyone that it was A JOKE, but just to be extra safe I put the little sarcastic smiley.

                          I must admit, I am quite flattered by the fact that you think I can "Throw Grade School insults like a 2 year old". That would make me pretty advanced, wouldn't it?
                          Too many hobbies, Too little time.

                          Mind you, I'm 5'7", 180, with a visible Ab...

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                          • #14
                            rogervzv
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 2087

                            Nikon scopes suck ...

                            CZ makes lousy rifles ...

                            Who knew?

                            <Sarcasm Mode Off>
                            Come and Take It!
                            I'm the only hell my momma ever raised ...

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                            • #15
                              problemchild
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 6959

                              Wow, its called reading comprehension. Sorry you feel the need to make crap up and lie!

                              YOU---"
                              CZ makes lousy rifles ... " (supposedly quoting me)


                              My original post----"The 455 I got had issues and had to be returned. I just got it back and its working OK now with my quick test. Time will tell if its really fixed."

                              And yes the Nikon scope I got was total crap, unable to see bullet holes at 50 yards and washed out along with horrible CA. Worst scope I have ever owned. I would say equal to a gun show Chinese knockoff. It was unable to clearly focus on the target and be sharp. It gave me a headache looking through it. Horrible optics! But what can you expect for 160 dollars and made in china. If it wasnt for the fanboy reviews of it being 5 stars I would never have bought it.

                              Now lets look at some recent 455 "problems"









                              The CZ 455 American is chambered for the .17 HMR and .22 Long Rifle in addition to the .22 WMR.



                              Sorry but the rave reviews of the scope are all BS and posted by fanboys or vendors with product to sell
                              I have dozens of scopes on my guns from different makers and I returned the Nikon within one day.
                              As far as the scope goes this is all you need to know.
                              Product Details


                              Nikon p22
                              • Product Dimensions: 4 x 15.5 x 3.5 inches
                              • Shipping Weight: 1.6 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
                              • Shipping: Currently, item can be shipped only within the U.S.
                              • Origin: China








                              Originally posted by rogervzv
                              Nikon scopes suck ...

                              CZ makes lousy rifles ...

                              Who knew?

                              <Sarcasm Mode Off>
                              Last edited by problemchild; 09-26-2013, 5:24 PM.

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