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  • tekno
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 132

    Colt M4 22 question

    I was looking at a colt Ar type 22 at big 5 and was thinking of getting it for my daughter. my question is can i change the upper later to a larger caliber or is it just a 22? Looking at it I got the idea that the lower could be used for other upper platforms when she was ready.

    thanks
    Tek
  • #2
    mark501w
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1699

    It's is it's own gun.

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    • #3
      Chaos47
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2010
      • 6615

      No.
      The Colt M4 22LR is only Colt by name and a M4 look alike.
      They are made by Umarex and share little parts (if any, probably just stocks and grips) with a real AR15.

      If that is you goal then get a real AR15 lower and put a rimfire upper on it or get a whole real AR15 and get a rimfire drop in bolt. You can then use any real AR part on it and then switch it back and forth between rimfire and centerfire with ease.

      Edit:
      Watch this takedown video to see just how different they are from the real deal
      Last edited by Chaos47; 05-28-2013, 8:56 PM.

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      • #4
        tekno
        Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 132

        thanks for the heads up

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        • #5
          Tripeaks69
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 942

          Or you can built your AR Lower and Buy Complete AR-15 22LR Upper then you can buy other bigger caliber in AR -15 upper platform

          CMMG Complete AR-15 22LR Upper


          Tactical Solution AR-22 LR M4 Complete Upper


          Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

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          • #6
            mark501w
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 1699

            Made by Carl Walther I like mine.

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            • #7
              RTE
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 1948

              dedicated 22

              from the video they look to be made pretty well and easily maintained.

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              • #8
                Chaos47
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 6615

                Did we watch the same video?

                To me looking at the internals and how they are taken apart its no wonder that they started as a toy company and then were bought by a gun company.
                That barrel is tiny under the outer sleeve, I can not believe you have to take the muzzle device off to field strip it...

                Give me a 22lr upper or a drop in bolt over that any day.

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                • #9
                  mark501w
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1699

                  The gun is made to take completely apart to service. I've got over 10,000 rounds through mine I like it.

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                  • #10
                    heyjerr
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1187

                    I just picked one up as a trade for a Vaquero I wasn't using. Have a few hundred rounds through it. It's not a smoothrunner at the moment.

                    It was pretty dirty when I bought it (used) so I did a complete field strip to clean it and lube up. The spring adjustment was fully in so I lightened it up a bit to help with the cheap ammo I'm running. First time at the range still had a few stovepipes and FTEs. I'm hoping we'll figure this out real quick...I need to duplicate the issue in my own hands to be sure.

                    My girlfriend is doing most of the shooting so she can't explain to me just yet what has been going wrong but the mags often are not fully seated even though she is giving them a good slap. We've just marked the mags to start keeping track of which is problematic.

                    Accuracy - she loves it. Only have a 3x Nikon on top and she has less than a 3" group at 50 yds (she's never shot before).

                    Trigger is horrible at over 9 lbs. I just sent it in to Bill Springfield for a much-needed smoothing ($49).

                    It has potential, but the mags are proprietary and nothing about the parts on this are interchangeable with a real AR (except for anything using the rail). Even a replacement grip would need a second hole put into it to attach.

                    Oh, and the forward assist and bolt release are cosmetic only.

                    It's definitely not a 1:1 training unit. Get a conversion kit or dedicated upper to use with a real AR lower.
                    Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.

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                    • #11
                      Dattebayo
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 2344

                      Originally posted by heyjerr
                      I just picked one up as a trade for a Vaquero I wasn't using. Have a few hundred rounds through it. It's not a smoothrunner at the moment.

                      It was pretty dirty when I bought it (used) so I did a complete field strip to clean it and lube up. The spring adjustment was fully in so I lightened it up a bit to help with the cheap ammo I'm running. First time at the range still had a few stovepipes and FTEs. I'm hoping we'll figure this out real quick...I need to duplicate the issue in my own hands to be sure.

                      My girlfriend is doing most of the shooting so she can't explain to me just yet what has been going wrong but the mags often are not fully seated even though she is giving them a good slap. We've just marked the mags to start keeping track of which is problematic.

                      Accuracy - she loves it. Only have a 3x Nikon on top and she has less than a 3" group at 50 yds (she's never shot before).

                      Trigger is horrible at over 9 lbs. I just sent it in to Bill Springfield for a much-needed smoothing ($49).

                      It has potential, but the mags are proprietary and nothing about the parts on this are interchangeable with a real AR (except for anything using the rail). Even a replacement grip would need a second hole put into it to attach.

                      Oh, and the forward assist and bolt release are cosmetic only.

                      It's definitely not a 1:1 training unit. Get a conversion kit or dedicated upper to use with a real AR lower.
                      M&P 15-22 is probably the best dedicated .22LR platform for training purposes. With the similar button locations, interchangeable trigger kits from AR-15 to 15-22, and many other mods that fit on the AR can be added to the rifle.

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                      • #12
                        Cheeseball
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 413

                        Colt M4

                        Originally posted by heyjerr
                        It was pretty dirty when I bought it (used) so I did a complete field strip to clean it and lube up. The spring adjustment was fully in so I lightened it up a bit to help with the cheap ammo I'm running.
                        It's been my experience that if you run " cheap ammo " through a Colt M4 your asking for a long day,,

                        Mine seems to work,,,,uh,,just fine
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                        • #13
                          heyjerr
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1187

                          Originally posted by Cheeseball
                          It's been my experience that if you run " cheap ammo " through a Colt M4 your asking for a long day,,

                          Mine seems to work,,,,uh,,just fine
                          Nowadays there's no such thing as cheap ammo! It's more a matter of "shoot it if ya got it". I'm glad I have anything to send downrange at this point.

                          But honestly, if a .22 can't shoot the cheap stuff it's not worth keeping. The M4 is currently on probation pending an improvement in attitude
                          Do not try and bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth...there is no spoon.

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                          • #14
                            Cheeseball
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 413

                            Colt M4

                            Trust me I get the " shoot it if ya got it "

                            when you can, sometime in a galaxy far away, try this stuff,,

                            CCI AR Tactical Rimfire Ammunition 22 Long Rifle 40 Grain Plated Round

                            No Issues what so ever,,

                            good luck
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                            • #15
                              mark501w
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1699

                              They are touchy on ammo. Didn't like Remington HV , shot CCI's, Winchesters. Had a old pack of Wildcats shot them like a target gun.

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