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  • #16
    CWDraco
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 3359

    Originally posted by creampuff
    Do you need a tool to twist off the fake can, or will it just twist off by hand? I'm thinking on some trips to the range, I don't want curious busy bodies looking at my direction. I might just twist it off and shoot with the skinny barrel.

    Not that I own one yet, but just thinking about that scenario.
    The HK MP5 comes with a tool to remove the can.

    Just to be clear,
    ATI is a GSG-5, a fake clone of the HK MP5. While ok for a plinker, is not built to the same standard as the Walther HK MP5

    ATI came out with a MP5 clone. HK got pissed. Filed a law suit against them. ATI had to change the external appearance. HK then asked Walther to produce their MP5 in .22lr form, and have their parent company Umarex import it.

    Umarex is the importer.
    Walther is the manufacture / modified the design for ,22lr.
    HK is the original designer.

    Umarex is the parent company and distributor / importer for Walther.

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    • #17
      sjg1966
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 1047

      Originally posted by CWDraco
      Sorry, but you are confused. The ATI MP5 feels like a toy, The HK MP5A5 .22lr is nearly the same weight as a 9mm / 10mm MP5. I held both and its fairly clear the HK MP5A5 .22lr is a solid firearm, so I bought it.

      Its a great firearm and I have been killing tennis balls at 50+ yards since I bought it.

      Only complaint is the A5 stock doesnt have a cheek rest since its a slider. I may go and buy a solid stock.
      I'm not confused, I was referring to the ATI/GSG. Walther/Umarex are of a much better quality, I just picked up a Walther/Umarex HK416-22 last week.
      Watch Astro steal brass and take it into his cage....
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4B_pd-yRWE&hd=1

      Glock 20C at indoor range....
      http://youtu.be/T4bP8DnhT9Q

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      • #18
        xxINKxx
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 4289

        I purchased the gsg5 back when they first came out and were super hard to get. It's fun, like a high powered air soft gun.
        "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

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        • #19
          boarder010
          Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 103

          Originally posted by nicki
          I got the GSG and it fails to fire, first time at range.

          I ran different brands, but in all honesty I just took it out of the box and tried shooting.

          Anyone else have misfires with this gun or is it just my stupidity for not scrubbing out gun before shooting?

          Nicki
          I haven't had any issues with my umarex hk at all and I was expecting some out of the box at least while breaking it in...worked like a champ. was using federal rounds.

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          • #20
            boarder010
            Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 103

            Originally posted by jay_cue
            only thing for me is with how compact it was, shooting with the iron sights have you "hunched" in pretty tight to shoot.
            agreed on this! I do feel hunched over trying to use the iron sights and it feels awkward with ear muffs on. I'm hoping my red dot will relieve the hunch.

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            • #21
              CWDraco
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 3359

              Originally posted by sjg1966
              I'm not confused, I was referring to the ATI/GSG. Walther/Umarex are of a much better quality, I just picked up a Walther/Umarex HK416-22 last week.

              @ sjg1966,
              Not trying to argue with you, but your first reply to this thread was, "They look quit fun. I just thought they felt too much like a "toy". I got the Umarex HK 416-22. It's very solid feeling compared to the MP 5"

              Since this thread was talking about the HK MP5 .22lr, and your comment seemed to be about the GSG, you appeared to be confused as to which firearm the OP was talking about.

              If you feel the actual HK MP5 feels like a toy, then I am scratching my head, because its the one of the best 9mm SMGs made to date and nthere is no way to mistake them for toys. The Walther HK MP5 .22lr looks, feels and weighs nearly the same.

              @ boarder010
              The HK MP5 .22lr has an adjustable Bolt to slow and speed it up according to the ammo you use, so even if you have trouble with some ammo, its a quick adjustment to dial it in. I too was using federal Bulk value ammo, and the only FTF were dud rounds. I know this because I was also shooting my Savage MKII TR and had some FTF also.

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              • #22
                Tripeaks69
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 942

                Originally posted by nicki
                I got the GSG and it fails to fire, first time at range.

                I ran different brands, but in all honesty I just took it out of the box and tried shooting.

                Anyone else have misfires with this gun or is it just my stupidity for not scrubbing out gun before shooting?

                Nicki
                What ammo are you using? standard velocity or High Velocity 22 LR Ammo.. It needs 22LR HV ammo, if you use standard velocity, you will get a lot of Failure to Eject/ or load or double load.

                Umarex/Walter HK MP5SDhas adjustment for HV and Standard ammo, but I just use HV on m Umarex/Walter HK MP5S, it loves Remington GB 22LR 40 gr HV.




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                • #23
                  Tripeaks69
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 942

                  Originally posted by jay_cue
                  went with a friend to pick his up and brought along my sons CZ 452 scout along. the stock seems quite short. felt pretty solid to me. only thing for me is with how compact it was, shooting with the iron sights have you "hunched" in pretty tight to shoot. to me this feels more of an outdoor gun, and spend a day just shooting stuff. I think it may be a little more fun/comfortable shooting with a red dot where you wouldn't have to try aiming. I don't see this a gun that would be fun shooting paper targets. I recently picked up the CZ too and surprisingly ended up falling in love shooting it. my friend seemed to also like shooting the CZ over the HK/Umarex MP5. not sure how that matters really, unless you don't have a bolt action 22 and may look into one of those instead.
                  I have 2 Bolt Action CZ 452, Style and American and a custom 10/22.

                  2 walter/Umarex 22 LR, HK MP5SD and AK-47 22LR Rebel Edition.

                  If i want to shoot at Out-door ranges, I bring and used my CZ bolt action and Custom 10/22 and shoot @ 50-100 yards, I will try beyond 100 yard up to 200 yards next outing.

                  If Im going to an in-door range, I always bring my HK MP5SD with Vortex Sparc on top...

                  I have not fired my AK-47 22LR, yet. I got it last March 2013. I probably make this an indoor 22LR rifle using iron sight. I am deciding if I will put a POSP 3-9x42V on Ak mount on it,


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                  • #24
                    sactobill
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 627

                    I put a fixed stock on mine and added a Primary Arms red dot sight andnit feels super nice. The only time I have FTF is when I rest the gun on the mag.

                    Was out yesterday at the rimfire silhouette at Sac Valley and was hitting 8 out of 10 targets at 50 yards. Super fun gun!

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                    • #25
                      majtom94
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 1120

                      That must have been the gun that Big 5 had that drove me to the lighter rifle GSG-522 and saved $100.
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                      • #26
                        gil671
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 753

                        I have the Umarex HK mp5SD. No problems what so ever. Got it at Turners too.
                        My feedback https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/itrader.php?u=83493

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                        • #27
                          crazychinaman
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 1557

                          Just make sure you buy the Umarex brand,not the other brand GSG.The umarex is better quality.

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                          • #28
                            dut
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 501

                            Very fun gun. Probably the gun I like to shoot most out of the few firearms I have.... but time for something new, think I'm going to post my GSG-5 (ATI) for sale soon. Bunch of little bolt-on parts, GSG red dot, and 5 mags.
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                            • #29
                              boarder010
                              Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 103

                              Originally posted by crazychinaman
                              Just make sure you buy the Umarex brand,not the other brand GSG.The umarex is better quality.
                              Agreed!

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                              • #30
                                2nd Mass
                                Veteran Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 3212

                                I've been eyballing this at Turners as well. Only thing that stops me is the only mags I've found are at gun shows for over $50! That and in December Turners was selling it for $429 and have raised their prices on it several times. Not gouging per say but still...

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