Considering a 10/22 Takedown

[rm1911]

What are the advantages of a Tech Sight, as opposed to the standard iron sights?

Aperture sights allow one to see the target much better. With standard irons like those typically found on most rifles the target is mostly obscured. But there's more.

The eye can't focus on two things at once and that means either sights or target is out of focus. And it hard to see both front and rear in focus at the same time. With apertures the problem is solved a couple of ways. One you ignore the rear sight and focus only on the front post. And usually apertures have longer sight radius as well. And the aperture forces your eye to automatically center the post. In fact the rear aperture will be blurred.

Suddenly the post becomes clear and the target is as well because apertures lengthen the focal plane. Oddly enough where the front sight is lined up is where it'll hit. Well designed sights are a system more than just a hole and a post. Tech sights have a GI style front sight with the wings that do more than just protect the post. It allows you to align the wings inside the aperture nd bracket a target.

Honestly good irons are as accurate as scopes. It takes practice but once you learn you'll live them. You'll be amazed. And another thing that helps is with scopes every movement is magnified by the x of the scope. Any wobble will be magnified by 4,6, or whtever. Irons actually minimize errors.

If it sounds like I don't like optics well that's halfway true. Try hunting early in the morning and you'll see the scope advantage!!

edit:

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http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-envelope-please-my-best-rifle-sight-award-goes-to/

[Lead Waster]

Unless you specifically need the takedown feature I recommend staying with a standard 10/22 and putting the difference in the price (~$100) into improving the trigger and either better sights or a good quality (not Chinese or Korean made) rimfire scope. Then attend an Appleseed course and learn how to really use your rifle right. As time goes by you can customize the heck out of a standard 10/22.

If you go with the takedown you're options for good quality scopes that fit in the bag are very limited due to length limitations.

I agree here. I have a Marlin 795 (scoped with a cheapo Barska Plinker 22) and a 10/22 TD and access to my friends' 10/22 TD.

I was actually originally looking for a regular 10/22 and put my name on a waiting list for both a normal 10/22 and the TD and the TD came in so I bought it (overpriced or course).

I don't at all need the novelty of the T/D feature. However it would make it nice and discreet to carry hiking (where legal to shoot a .22) But mostly, it's a novelty.

The Marlin 795 is very accurate, though I've had some issues with it jamming (luck of the draw). I shot a "Rifleman's Score" at an Appleseed clinic with the Marlin. (look up the Appleseed Project on the net when you get a chance...they teach you how to shoot rifles and teach you some revolutionary war history too!).

The Marlin 60 is the same accuracy, but with less jamming (it's magazine related as far as I can tell). Don't let the tube seem like a disadvantage. A lot of folks make tube speed loaders (ie; preloaded tubes that you just put up to the guns tube magazine and just slide down 14 rounds just like that!)


So yeah, consider the T/D carefully as there are lots of goodies for 10/22's in general, but some you can't take advantage of with the T/D.

I'm leaving my T/D with iron sights. I had bought Tech Sights for the Marlin 795, but I couldn't see the target at the Appleseed clinic, so I bought a scope for it. I then realized that with the dovetail rail that comes with 10/22's I can actually mount the marlin 795 tech sight rear sight on it!

With a scope, the T/D doesn't fit nicely (it DOES fit) into the Ruger backpack...which isn't all that discreet since it's black, has molle webbing on it and that big red Ruger symbol on it!

I might get a regular 10/22 when I see one again, just to mod the crap out of it for fun.

However, I'm an old man that's been working for 30 years and can afford to buy stuff at gougy prices and can be a little bit impractical ... especially when I'm indulging my manly hobbies (I have 2 daughters and playing barbies with them all day leaves a guy with a need to do some gunsmithing or hammering or something at the end of the day!)

[Full Clip]

I thought about the T/D but just went with a standard 10/22. Just don't see the additional value beyond coolness, and that's just not enough right now.

[LessTalkMoreShoot]

I will definitely purchase a T/D one of these days! Before they came out with it, I was putting together my bug-out gear and wishing they had such a thing as a takedown 10/22. Perfect bug-out gun IMO (along with a large caliber Glock, of course).

BTW, 10/22's are great for killing rattlesnakes (and ground squirrels). Check my avatar for proof.

[superbarnie]

Okay thanks guys. I hope Turners has the 10/22's on sale for $220 soon like how they did last week.

[Lead Waster]

That's a great price!

[rsmorgan]

I'd second the motion on a Marlin 60 if you want a semi-auto. Not 100% clear how the legislation will end-up, but it is more likely to "pass" whatever the new "AW" test is than a detachable magazine rifle.

Alternatively, if you are really uncomfortable about the AW issue think about a bolt, lever or pump gun. At least so far there isn't much Sacramento hostility towards these guns and they will help you learn to shoot just as well as a semiauto.

I think the whole thing of including .22s in the AW legislation is a pure absurdity. It actually may work to our advantage, however, in that it opens up the proposed legislation to outright mockery as "banning squirrel rifles." Beyond that, there is the whole 2nd Amendment issue for court appeals as it is hard to argue that something like the 10/22 doesn't meet the "in common use for lawful purposes" test.

[superbarnie]

I'm getting a 10/22 because I want to get it before it's too late. If I wanted to buy a gun that wouldn't get affected by new legislation, then I could just wait and buy it later.

[Lead Waster]

... understood. It's a panic buy, like all the AR-15s.

It's a good gun, pick anyone you want as you can modify it to be any other version of 10/22 (except takedown) that there is.

I don't think it'll be too late. if you get one now, you'll have to register it. If you buy one in a year, you might just register it as you buy it.

[superbarnie]

... understood. It's a panic buy, like all the AR-15s.

It's a good gun, pick anyone you want as you can modify it to be any other version of 10/22 (except takedown) that there is.

I don't think it'll be too late. if you get one now, you'll have to register it. If you buy one in a year, you might just register it as you buy it.

The problem is that if I wait too long, and if the bill is passed, then they will be extremely hard to find, and most likely more expensive as well.

I wouldn't consider it a panic buy, because I've already been keeping an eye on it for about half a year. More like rushing the plan along a little quicker.

[Lead Waster]

The matter is settled then! Get your butt over to turners and buy that 10/22 for that good price!

If I could find a regular 10/22 for that price I'd buy it today.

[Edwood]

If you want to shoot primarily with aftermarket iron sights like Tech Sight, stick with regular 10/22. Anytime you change the tension on the barrel retention screws and knurled nut, it can affect the alignment, so you'd have to rezero. The stock sights are attached to the barrel end only, but Tech sights rear sight attach to the upper receiver. So if you fully disassemble anything in the barrel retention, it will affect the alignment.

If you plan to shoot primarily with Optics, then it won't be as big a deal, although, as stated, a larger scope will stick out forward a lot, and will likely not fit in the little tacti-cool ruger TD bag.