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  • jamkezhia
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 40

    Need help choosing red dot

    hello all,

    I want to put burris ff3 on my ruger mklll hunter.
    what is 3 or 8 MOA? is this the size of the dot?

    thanks..
  • #2
    xtremepb
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 47

    Yes. MOA = minute of angle. Google search for comprehensive explanation.

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    • #3
      rimfired
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 505

      Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that a 3 MOA dot would cover approximately a 3" circle of target @ 100 yds.
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      • #4
        Yerman
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 1396

        Originally posted by rimfired
        Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that a 3 MOA dot would cover approximately a 3" circle of target @ 100 yds.
        Well...if you want to get exact it's 3.141" at 100 yards

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        • #5
          pennys dad
          Arizona Ex-Pat
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Feb 2008
          • 5984

          Originally posted by jamkezhia
          hello all,

          I want to put burris ff3 on my ruger mklll hunter.
          what is 3 or 8 MOA? is this the size of the dot?

          thanks..
          Easy simple answer: The MOA on a reddot tells you how big the red dot is at a fixed distance.
          100 yards is 1 MOA or 1 inch (not exactly but close enough)
          so 3 MOA at 100 yards is 3 inches (not exactly but close enough)
          step it back a bit
          1 MOA at 25 yards is 1/4 inch
          so 3 MOA ar 25 yards is 3/4 inch and so on

          So you need to know what distance the MOA is defined for on the reddot
          Pennys Dad

          Ps 25:4-5 NLT Show me the right path, O Lord; point out the road for me to follow. Lead me by your truth and teach me, for you are the God who saves me. All day long I put my hope in you.

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          • #6
            DPmax
            Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 330

            Yerman and Penny's Dad covered the MOA and 100yrd questions, so I'll just chip this in...
            Red Dots are amazing for quick targeting of close objects, but sorta blow at longer ranges if you want any pinpoint accuracy.
            Make sure you are buying the correct type of optic for the task.

            OP, I'm planning on picking up a FFIII for my p226 soon. I've shot a friend's MKII that has one and they are really great, good balance in terms of optic size while still being low profile.
            He made a mount for his so it attached directly to the standard holes in the barrel for Ruger's rails rather than using the rail and a picatinny mount. I'll try to get a picture of it when he's back in country.
            Last edited by DPmax; 04-25-2013, 1:24 PM.
            Never follow the advice of Calguns Addicts,
            They clearly don't know what they are talking about.

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            • #7
              Izzy43
              CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
              • Dec 2009
              • 2670

              I have had a number of red dot sights and my opinion is that anything larger than a 3 MOA dot may leave you wanting a better sight. Also bear in mind that when one increases the intensity of the dot that they tend to get larger except in the most expensive sights. So if starting with a 5 MOA dot and cranking up the intensity level one can have a fairly large dot.

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              • #8
                wurger
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 1433

                I didn't even know they made 8 MOA red dots. That's worse than China clone airsoft red dots.

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                • #9
                  uxo2
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4003

                  I prefer smalle dots.

                  The 9moa that was on the trijicon RMR was not to my
                  taste.
                  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
                  Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
                  One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
                  George Patton

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                  • #10
                    .40CALIbear
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 839

                    Primary arms has the Bushnell TRS-25 on sale right now. It's a great mini red dot and is perfect on top of my 10/22

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                    • #11
                      E92335i
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 2937

                      +1 just bought a TRS 25 with free ar mount. I'm planning to put this red dot on 22/45

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                      • #12
                        INFAMOUS762X39
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1458

                        Originally posted by E92335i
                        +1 just bought a TRS 25 with free ar mount. I'm planning to put this red dot on 22/45
                        Here is my 22/45 with the TRS-25, I have not zero'd it. Been Busy shooting her with the Dawson FO Front Sights. One Thing I can say is that the TRS-25 is extremely rugged. 5000+ Rounds through my Saiga AK47, it held zero all day every day.


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                        • #13
                          jamkezhia
                          Junior Member
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 40

                          Thanks guys.. I go with 8 moa for steel plate tactical shooting.

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                          • #14
                            E92335i
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 2937

                            Originally posted by INFAMOUS762X39
                            Here is my 22/45 with the TRS-25, I have not zero'd it. Been Busy shooting her with the Dawson FO Front Sights. One Thing I can say is that the TRS-25 is extremely rugged. 5000+ Rounds through my Saiga AK47, it held zero all day every day.


                            Nice set-up!

                            Got a HIVIZ fiber front sight and Volquartsen target sear. Trigger pull is a nice 3lb! Might buy a Volquartsen target trigger to fine tune the take up/over travel

                            I chose the TRS coz it is dependable. My Arsenal AK had it and it held zero well.

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                            • #15
                              hiccup45
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 6

                              I figure if you copy the bullseye guys you are getting a good rig. Good enough for camp perry, probably good enough for me. ;-) Ultradot is what I went with. Very nice rig. Good luck finding your red dot. They are a lot of fun to shoot with.

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