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  • NewGuy1911
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 539

    1911 22lr conversion?? Marvel, Nighthawk

    Anyone have some knowledge about these two 1911 22lr conversions; Marvel and the Nighthawk Custom/Bob Marvel? The steel slide-lock Marvel is out of my price range. Actually both lock-back Marvels are more $ than I want to part with. Anyone have some thoughts regarding the Nighthawk Custom/Bob Marvel conversion?

    Any dealers in the SF East Bay carry/have these?

    The 22lr conversion is for IDPA-type practice (with drawing from a holster) and to improve my 1911 shooting sport skills. Also to keep the cost of ammo down; this is a very expensive sport.
    "Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short."---Your faithful dog

    1911Tuner (That one's my own. I'm a rescuer. It's What I do.)
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    wild_weasel
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1256

    I have had a Ciener 1911A1 conversion for years. The conversion manufactured by Kimber looks to be a direct copy. So much so I ordered a couple Kimber magazines to try. My original Ciener magazines are milled from aluminum stock while the Kimbers are molded from plastic. The Kimbers functioned perfectly with my conversion, using Remington bulk 22lr. I just looked at the Ciener web site and the Basic conversion runs $199.00.

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    • #3
      NewGuy1911
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 539

      Surprisingly few responses!
      "Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short."---Your faithful dog

      1911Tuner (That one's my own. I'm a rescuer. It's What I do.)

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      • #4
        CamW
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1676

        I have an Advantage Arms 1911 Commander kit on an old Fed Ord aluminum frame.So far about 300 rounds of Remington and Federal bulk WalMart ammo through it,feeds and extracts fine.I was breaking clay birds on the berm at 20 yards . I'm very happy with the kit.

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        • #5
          Grumpyoldretiredcop
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2008
          • 6437

          Second the Advantage Arms kit. I have one, it runs flawlessly.
          I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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          • #6
            ThatFishGuy
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 1084

            I was also eying the marvel kit, but found an Advantage Arms match kit locally. Works great, accurate as hell, and even had the lock open feature. Ive also heard great things about the STI kit but only have personal experience with the AA.

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            • #7
              redcliff
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2008
              • 5676

              I have a Marvel Unit 1. It's great, extremely accurate; probably the most accurate conversion available. Came with a .82 group target shot at 50 yards from a rest. It shoots and feeds very well with Federal Champion 525 bulk pack. I have the hybrid rail so I can shoot open sights or optics/red dot.

              No slide hold open on the last shot with my Unit 1 but it doesn't bother me. For some people its a big deal. On a defense pistol I would agree its a handy feature; on a target pistol no big deal imho. Consider it forced dry fire practice every 10 rounds if you don't count your shots
              "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
              "What we get away with isn't usually the same as what's good for us"
              "An extended slide stop is the second most useless part you can put on a 1911"

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              although I suppose there are a few tanks which I owe an apology to for that remark"

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              • #8
                SLO1911Fan
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 1483

                I've used most of the kits on the market and personally I recommend Kimber, Tactical Solutions, or Marvel Unit 1 or 2 depending on what you want to do with it.

                Tacsol and Marvel Unit 1 both have less moving mass, only a portion of the slide recoils.
                The Kimber and Marvel Unit 2 both function like a normal 1911.

                If you're down in LA/OC at all I'll let you test the tacsol and kimber units I have right now.
                I'm a big old, bourbon-soaked cigar-huffing ***, as God in his infinite wisdom meant me to be. - Charlie Sheen.

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                • #9
                  NewGuy1911
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 539

                  Thanks SLO1911Fan,

                  I bought a used Marvel Unit 2, it has problems (some maybe mag related), I can put the Unit 2 on both a Combat Commander size and standard Government 1911.

                  It also will fit in the same holster as the 5" 1911 so when I start practicing for the IDPA class/meets I'm good to go.
                  "Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short."---Your faithful dog

                  1911Tuner (That one's my own. I'm a rescuer. It's What I do.)

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                  • #10
                    SLO1911Fan
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1483

                    Try using it with the kimber polymer mags, or the AA mags. My marvel Unit 1 ran way better with kimber mags than with the actual marvel one.
                    I'm a big old, bourbon-soaked cigar-huffing ***, as God in his infinite wisdom meant me to be. - Charlie Sheen.

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                    • #11
                      RickD427
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 9266

                      Originally posted by NewGuy1911
                      Anyone have some knowledge about these two 1911 22lr conversions; Marvel and the Nighthawk Custom/Bob Marvel? The steel slide-lock Marvel is out of my price range. Actually both lock-back Marvels are more $ than I want to part with. Anyone have some thoughts regarding the Nighthawk Custom/Bob Marvel conversion?

                      Any dealers in the SF East Bay carry/have these?

                      The 22lr conversion is for IDPA-type practice (with drawing from a holster) and to improve my 1911 shooting sport skills. Also to keep the cost of ammo down; this is a very expensive sport.
                      Check out Gunbroker for the Colt .22 Conversion Unit. The older version had a steel slide and used a floating chamber. When mounted it has the same weight and balance as the regular 1911. The floating chamber provides a more realistic recoil feel, though nothing like a .45.

                      The older version will not work with a Series 80. You also have to keep it clean, but for feel and function, none of the other units come close.
                      If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                      • #12
                        NewGuy1911
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 539

                        I was wrong about the 22lr magazines; I believe it was the Marvel (no name on the bottom) magazine. The steel Colt Ace and Kimber (plastic) function. I bought some back-up metal Colt Ace-type (metalform) and I may need to learn how to adjust them.

                        Thanks for the advice
                        "Speak kindly to me, beloved master. Revel in my unconditional love, and give me every minute that you can spare, for my time with you is short."---Your faithful dog

                        1911Tuner (That one's my own. I'm a rescuer. It's What I do.)

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                        • #13
                          RTE
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 1948

                          I heard the marvel was the choice of shooting teams?
                          I saved my pennies and bought a like new Tactical Solutions 2211
                          with 2 Billet mags.

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                          • #14
                            Kodachrome
                            Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 379

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                            • #15
                              RunDMLee
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 19

                              I just got my Nighthawk Custom 22 conversion kit, designed by Bob Marvel of Bob Marvel Custom Guns.

                              I installed it on my Kimber Supermatch II frame. I'm very satisfied with the quality of the conversion kit. Taking it to the range, using CCI Blazer ammo, it performed well without any malfunctions. It shoots as accurate as my Browning Buckmark and Ruger Mark II's. The magazines are polymer and functioned satisfactory, but I wish they were metal like those used by the GSG 1911 22LR. My friend loaned me his GSG 1911 22LR mag, but unfortunately it did not lock in my magwell. Perhaps a little dremel tweaking could make it work, but I'll just stick the the Nighthawk polymer mags for now.

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