No buffer and/or spring for rifle stock AR22?

[Stephen83]

Noob question and it seems like it's been answered back in 2009 so I didn't want to resurrect that thread but here's a quote

IIRC, for a .22lr upper, you don't even need a buffer tube/spring, so anything will work.

For a .22lr upper pistol build, they even make a endcap that replaces the buffer tube.

I built an AR22 with a dedicated upper and a NFA LW15 polymer lower with the original collapsible stock. I believe it's commercial type?

I've ordered the Magpul MOE Rifle Stock and so based on this, I don't need a buffer tube, spring or buffer? Just want some clarification on how to do complete this. Thanks!

[Intimid8tor]

You'll need a rifle buffer tube for the stock to mount to. No way around that. As for not running a buffer, not sure if you can do that without at least blocking the tube.

[2nab]

sounds ghetto but it works. You can trim a piece of PVC pipe and insert it in the tube. pipe gives resistance against the 22 bolt to help keep it in place. Some bolts actually dont need anything. Really depends what kind of bolt you are running.

[Merc1138]

You'll need a rifle buffer tube for the stock to mount to. No way around that. As for not running a buffer, not sure if you can do that without at least blocking the tube.

To use the MOE stock, yeah he'd need the tube. But in general for a bolt system that doesn't require the use of the buffer and spring, you don't actually need a buffer tube. As long as you can maintain the 26" minimum OAL in it's shortest shooting configuration, you can use stuff like the nordic components CRS, ace folding mechanisms, and so on.

Of course the problem with going that route, is that you couldn't just bolt a standard centerfire ar-15 upper onto it.(well... there is one adapter but I forget the name of it)

[shadow65]

A buffer and spring is not "required" as the .22 is a blow back set up.
However, the .22 AR bcg will have some movement. Some have enough to cause light strikes and feeding problems.
I use a buffer, spring and the TACCOM Pressure plug with my .22 set ups.
Nearly Zero movement in the bcg.
Plus, I leave my lowers set up for other caliber uppers.
Dave N

[uxo2]

A buffer and spring is not "required" as the .22 is a blow back set up.
However, the .22 AR bcg will have some movement. Some have enough to cause light strikes and feeding problems.
I use a buffer, spring and the TACCOM Pressure plug with my .22 set ups.
Nearly Zero movement in the bcg.Plus, I leave my lowers set up for other caliber uppers.
Dave N

Same here...Higly recommend the TACCOM..

It works...Its cheap....

[NorCalDustin]

I also recommend the TACCOM Pressure plug especially if your having extraction, primer strike, or BHOA issues.... In fact, there are many things that it tends to help fix/prevent issues that were not expected when Tim released his Pressure Plug.

[Jet Setter]

sounds ghetto but it works. You can trim a piece of PVC pipe and insert it in the tube. pipe gives resistance against the 22 bolt to help keep it in place. Some bolts actually dont need anything. Really depends what kind of bolt you are running.

Exactly so. I have a very similar set up. I have a LW-15 lower and a Chiappa upper. You need something to keep the bolt in place as you don't want it going into the buffer tube. It is still good to keep your buffer and spring in the lower in case you want to use the lower for something else.

[Stephen83]

Thanks guys. I've not fired it myself but a local shop test fired it with the LW15 lower and no issues whatsoever. He only did 4 to 5 rounds. I'll wouldn't be running another caliber in the near term yet so I'm looking for a good cheap alternative. I've heard putting the right sized piece of wood stick in there also works O.o I'll look into the Taccom pressure plug.

[NorCalDustin]

The TACCOMM pressure plug is really cheap, and i wouldn't risk putting wood in there for obvious reasons.

[bohoki]

yea you should check out the agp stock if you are doing rimfire

http://www.agparms.com/products/AGP-Arms-AR-Side-Folding-Stock.html

[Speedpower]

I took off the buffer and buffer spring on my AR22, it runs fine without it, my set up is a Tactical Solution lightweight upper and a Plumcrazy polymer lower.

[Stephen83]

This is the rifle stock I ordered. So, can I use the Taccom pressure plug on the existing carbine spring and buffer if I get a rifle tube?

[donw]

i run the buffer and buffer spring in my Spikes ST-22 with no problems...it runs great.

i leave it that way so i can exchange the dedicated 22lr uppers with the 5.56 uppers with 'no problems'.

i run a standard A2 buttstock.

[Stephen83]

Is this good to go?

http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/A2_Rifle_Stock_Completion_Kit_p/brn-080-000-554.htm

Looks like I'll need a screw. Would the MOE Rifle stock include that screw?
Seems to be the cheapest place that is in stock and has great reviews. Are there any other place I should look at?