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  • AbrahamBurden
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 261

    Catch 22 AR-15 Bolt Catch?

    Does anybody know how the Catch 22 bolt catch for 22lr AR-15 uppers is? How does it perform the last round bolt hold open function with Black Dog magazines? How does it compare to CMMG's BHOA adapter?

    Drop in replacement bolt catches for .22lr AR-15 rifles. Get your true last-round-hold-open functionality back!
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    uxo2
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4003

    I have 2 Catch22s BHOs
    They work pretty good with M&P 15/22 mags and tape.
    The thread on Arfcom is gone?

    Have not had a chance to try out new CMMG or BD mags with different followers
    to see if it works.
    I have old BD mags.

    Compared to Cmmg BHO...Not the same.
    IMHO.

    CMMG is finicky for set up and requires the MAGS have the correct
    follower.

    I gave up trying to set up my CMMG BHO...Some other day.

    Once installed...your lower is strictly a .22lr lower and you
    will have to remove the C22 for centerfire.
    Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
    Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
    One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
    George Patton

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    • #3
      AbrahamBurden
      Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 261

      The dedicated 22 lower is not an issue for me; I plan to make a dedicated 22lr AR-15 anyway. If you do ever test the Catch 22 with Black Dog magazines, can you tell me how it functions?

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      • #4
        shadow65
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 1301

        Black Dog is working on compatable followers for the Catch 22.

        The CMMG BHOA almost always requires the bolt catch spring to be shortened or the reduced power bc spring for proper function.
        The mag spring has to overcome the Bolt Catch Spring.
        Dave N
        Independent Field Tester/Research and Developement

        Better to die for something than live for nothing

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        • #5
          uxo2
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4003

          Originally posted by Norinco522
          The dedicated 22 lower is not an issue for me; I plan to make a dedicated 22lr AR-15 anyway. If you do ever test the Catch 22 with Black Dog magazines, can you tell me how it functions?
          Thats what Im waiting for.

          they are different generations of BD mags out there.

          Seems I bought the
          WHO KNOWS WHAT GENERATION
          BD MAG to replace my worn out ones.

          Steel feedlips...Skeleton body design with
          pull down follower.
          Easy loading....
          But it does NOT LOCK ON LAST ROUND FIRED.

          One day Ill get lucky and find the correct generation
          that works with it.

          To bad the Catch 22 thread on ARFCOM dissapeared.
          Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
          Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
          One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
          George Patton

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          • #6
            alpalwal
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 655

            It stopped being worth the cost to advertise on AR15.com and when you stop being an advertiser they delete all your threads :-/

            The Black Dog magazines do not work with the Catch22 even though they say it does. The follower doesn't go up high enough and the spring tension is way too weak.

            Right now the best solution is the S&W 15-22 magazines with the adapter I sell that makes it fit snugly in the AR magwell (apparently the 15-22 magwell is a little smaller than standard).

            If you have any questions please respond here or shoot me a PM.

            Thanks,
            Alex
            Bolt catches for your AR with a .22 conversion ARE SHIPPING NOW!
            http://www.ARCatch22.com

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            • #7
              uxo2
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 4003

              Originally posted by alpalwal
              It stopped being worth the cost to advertise on AR15.com and when you stop being an advertiser they delete all your threads :-/

              The Black Dog magazines do not work with the Catch22 even though they say it does. The follower doesn't go up high enough and the spring tension is way too weak.

              I knew that part

              Right now the best solution is the S&W 15-22 magazines with the adapter I sell that makes it fit snugly in the AR magwell (apparently the 15-22 magwell is a little smaller than standard).

              If you have any questions please respond here or shoot me a PM.

              Thanks,
              Alex
              Aint nothing like getting straight scoop from the man...

              I love your product.......
              Last edited by uxo2; 10-02-2012, 2:37 PM.
              Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you,
              Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.
              One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.
              George Patton

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              • #8
                AbrahamBurden
                Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 261

                Thanks. Do you have an ETA on Black Dog's compatible followers?

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                • #9
                  NorCalDustin
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 1463

                  Originally posted by alpalwal
                  It stopped being worth the cost to advertise on AR15.com and when you stop being an advertiser they delete all your threads :-/

                  The Black Dog magazines do not work with the Catch22 even though they say it does. The follower doesn't go up high enough and the spring tension is way too weak.

                  Right now the best solution is the S&W 15-22 magazines with the adapter I sell that makes it fit snugly in the AR magwell (apparently the 15-22 magwell is a little smaller than standard).

                  If you have any questions please respond here or shoot me a PM.

                  Thanks,
                  Alex
                  With your product installed on the lower, does it make it impossible to run a centerfire upper on it?

                  With all my uppers and everything floating around... I'm kind of thinking I'd like a way to make my lowers intended for rimfire not compatible in some way with a centerfire upper.
                  Originally posted by BannedinBritain
                  The only dumb question is the one you don't ask...and get arrested for later.

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                  • #10
                    alpalwal
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 655

                    Sorry for the delay-

                    Originally posted by Norinco522
                    Thanks. Do you have an ETA on Black Dog's compatible followers?
                    Nope. It's been a real pain getting them to make any changes. Hopefully soon but who knows.

                    Originally posted by NorCalDustin
                    With your product installed on the lower, does it make it impossible to run a centerfire upper on it?

                    With all my uppers and everything floating around... I'm kind of thinking I'd like a way to make my lowers intended for rimfire not compatible in some way with a centerfire upper.

                    Yes, this is only compatible with .22s. With a centerfire upper, it won't even close because the bolt sits too low and the bolt catch hits it.
                    Bolt catches for your AR with a .22 conversion ARE SHIPPING NOW!
                    http://www.ARCatch22.com

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                    • #11
                      2shotjoe
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 26559

                      Originally posted by shadow65
                      Black Dog is working on compatable followers for the Catch 22.

                      The CMMG BHOA almost always requires the bolt catch spring to be shortened or the reduced power bc spring for proper function.
                      The mag spring has to overcome the Bolt Catch Spring.
                      Dave N
                      thats nice and all, i rather have thing work on their QC. I can never load the last round in my 10r mags.
                      Originally posted by Kestryll
                      ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
                      Originally posted by Libertarian777
                      ...Don't pick either side....

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                      • #12
                        Mesa Tactical
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 1746

                        Originally posted by alpalwal
                        It stopped being worth the cost to advertise on AR15.com and when you stop being an advertiser they delete all your threads :-/


                        Originally posted by Catch-22
                        The Smith & Wesson 15-22 magazines work great with the Catch22 bolt catch but by themselves they don't fit snugly in standard AR-15 lowers. By putting an adapter on the front of the magazine, the magazine will fit snugly in the lower and consistently engage the bolt catch after the last round is fired.
                        Since we also have an M&P 15-22 we want to use our magazines in, what about shimming the magazine well itself? Again, dedicated .22 lower (with a normal magazine release ). Any issue with that?
                        Last edited by Mesa Tactical; 10-12-2012, 7:38 AM.
                        Lucy at www.mesatactical.com

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                        • #13
                          Speedpower
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 2238

                          Does the catch 22 bolt catch come in black finish?

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                          • #14
                            alpalwal
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 655

                            Originally posted by Mesa Tactical



                            Since we also have an M&P 15-22 we want to use our magazines in, what about shimming the magazine well itself? Again, dedicated .22 lower (with a normal magazine release ). Any issue with that?
                            Honestly I haven't tried it but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't. I might sand down the bottom end of the adapter first though so that the magazine can slide in easier and you won't have to worry about hitting the bottom edge of the adapter.


                            Originally posted by Speedpower
                            Does the catch 22 bolt catch come in black finish?
                            Yes, they all come parkerized black.
                            Bolt catches for your AR with a .22 conversion ARE SHIPPING NOW!
                            http://www.ARCatch22.com

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