Help me decide between two .22 scopes

[problemchild]

So I have done a bunch of reading over the last two weeks and decided between the Redfield or the Nikon. I see a couple models for the 22.

1.) Nikon P-22 BDC
2.) Redfield Revolution BDC

I cant decide between the 2x7 or the 3x9. I also have a question about the p22 bdc circles being too large and is it useful? I'm mounting it on a CZ 452 trainer.

Any advice is welcome.....

[pennys dad]

i would say bdc is cool but cross hairs are better. when u gonna be at burrow next, i have the redfield 2x7 bdc

[sholling]

In order to leave room for the CZ's bolt handle to clear the ocular bell you'll have to mount the scope so high that I probably wouldn't bother with a P-22 simply because you'll have the room for a larger objective and better light gathering - especially with an entry level Prostaff based scope. I'm of the opinion that Nikon's claim of 98% light transmission from a budget scope is pure used car salesman level BS. My guess is it's probably more like 92 or 94% or so. If it'll clear the rear sight you might also want to consider the Prostaff 3-9x40 Rimfire BDC because you'll probably have the room with CZ's .555" high medium rings. I'm going to give one a try on one of my 10/22s.


Weaver T24 24x40 target scope on my old 453 Varmint. The rings are CZ medium to allow the bolt handle to clear.

I have not played with the new Redfield but I've read that it's a restyled/rebadged VX-1 which is a pretty good scope. I'd just stick with a rimfire scope so that it's set parallax-free somewhere between 50-60yds. One that I was considering for a hunting 22 before deciding that I can't afford it right now was the Pride-Fowler 3-9x32 Rimfire but I'd want to see one before laying out that kind of money. The company is just over in San Dimas.

[problemchild]

Well....

I managed to find the CZ rings today but was not thinking about the bolt handle only the from Obj. The CZ rings measure 5/8ths inch high. So Im wondering which scopes would clear the bolt with that height?

In order to leave room for the CZ's bolt handle to clear the ocular bell you'll have to mount the scope so high that I probably wouldn't bother with a P-22 simply because you'll have the room for a larger objective and better light gathering - especially with an entry level Prostaff based scope. I'm of the opinion that Nikon's claim of 98% light transmission from a budget scope is pure used car salesman level BS. My guess is it's probably more like 92 or 94% or so. If it'll clear the rear sight you might also want to consider the Prostaff 3-9x40 Rimfire BDC because you'll probably have the room with CZ's .555" high medium rings. I'm going to give one a try on one of my 10/22s.


Weaver T24 24x40 target scope on my old 453 Varmint. The rings are CZ medium to allow the bolt handle to clear.

I have not played with the new Redfield but I've read that it's a restyled/rebadged VX-1 which is a pretty good scope. I'd just stick with a rimfire scope so that it's set parallax-free somewhere between 50-60yds. One that I was considering for a hunting 22 before deciding that I can't afford it right now was the Pride-Fowler 3-9x32 Rimfire but I'd want to see one before laying out that kind of money. The company is just over in San Dimas.

[sholling]

Well....

I managed to find the CZ rings today but was not thinking about the bolt handle only the from Obj. The CZ rings measure 5/8ths inch high. So Im wondering which scopes would clear the bolt with that height?

I don't have the CZ anymore so I can't measure but anything with a normal sized ocular should be okay. The T24's ocular is skinny 38mm and left me room to work the bolt pretty easily. You still knew it was a wide swinging CZ bolt when you worked the bolt but it was very usable. The P22 2-7x32 has a 44mm ocular and so does the 3-9x40 Prostaff. I'm thinking it should clear (just with a bit less finger clearance) but it's been so long I just can't swear to it. I'd call CZ and ask.

[problemchild]

I don't have the CZ anymore so I can't measure but anything with a normal sized ocular should be okay. The T24's ocular is skinny 38mm and left me room to work the bolt pretty easily. You still knew it was a wide swinging CZ bolt when you worked the bolt but it was very usable. The P22 2-7x32 has a 44mm ocular and so does the 3-9x40 Prostaff. I'm thinking it should clear (just with a bit less finger clearance) but it's been so long I just can't swear to it. I'd call CZ and ask.

OK I bought the p22 2x7 rimfire. It fits pretty good. I had to slide it back a bit to clear the front site so the eye relief is good at 7x but not so good at 2x. I might have to remove my front site to slide the scope forward another half inch. But it works for now. The regular p22 also has a sping loaded turret system that allows you to zero and then lift and set back to the yardage you are zero'd for. Nice feature that kinda gives me what I wanted.

I also got a discount on the scope because turners f'ed up what they told me over the phone. There is also a 30$ rebate going right now so I am saving about 55$ off the retail value. Means I walked out the door for 125$. I am happy with that tidy savings. The CZ rings are really strong being steel and all. Seems like a nice scope for the price. I will post a follow up when I go to the range.

[Squidward]

I have the Nikon 2-7 on my 10/22. Its a nice scope for the money. In fact, took it out today and shot to 100 yards without issue. The turrets are well-marked and click audibly when turning. The BDC is nice and works as advertised. At 100 yards the 7 power is almost not enough power to see the 'hits' but that is probably due to my eyesight. The Nikon 1 piece scope mount works well for me and zero hasn't been lost in over 1K rounds.

[ckyrulez]

problemchild, definitely let me know how the scope handles at the range. I just picked up a CZ 455 and I'm looking for a scope. Thinking about a Nikon rimfire prostaff 3x9 at the moment...

[roushstage2]

He returned his P-22. Nikon had some go out with bad turrets that they are replacing for free. He had one with the bad turrets.

[problemchild]

problemchild, definitely let me know how the scope handles at the range. I just picked up a CZ 455 and I'm looking for a scope. Thinking about a Nikon rimfire prostaff 3x9 at the moment...

Well according to the guys over at Rimfirecentral in the cz group the weaver V16 is the scope to buy. I had about a dozen people say it was the scope to buy so i went ahead and ordered it.

This is the scope if you need a link. It comes with different reticles so make sure you look at all of them.

http://swfa.com/Weaver-4-16x42-Classic-V-Rifle-Scope-P585.aspx

[Furncliff]

I have a made by Weaver Nitrex, that I bought on a whim, mounted on a Brno#1. My favorite scope. I like it more than my much more expensive Nikon.

[ckyrulez]

I heard Weavers are pretty good for rimfire. Maybe I'll look into those now...

[sholling]

Well according to the guys over at Rimfirecentral in the cz group the weaver V16 is the scope to buy. I had about a dozen people say it was the scope to buy so i went ahead and ordered it.

This is the scope if you need a link. It comes with different reticles so make sure you look at all of them.

http://swfa.com/Weaver-4-16x42-Class...cope-P585.aspx

You done good. I use Weaver V24s on my better (sub-MOA) 10/22s and love them.


The V16 is about the same size as this V24.

I heard Weavers are pretty good for rimfire. Maybe I'll look into those now...

For a fixed focus hunter/plinker I recommend either a Weaver RV7 2.5-7x28 Rimfire ($140) or a Leupold VX-1 2-7x28 Rimfire ($220). For a more powerful scope I recommend either a Weaver RV9 3-9x32 Rimfire w/AO or the V16 4-16x42 w/AO. The non-AO scopes are faster on target but the AO scopes are slightly more precise.

[sholling]

He returned his P-22. Nikon had some go out with bad turrets that they are replacing for free. He had one with the bad turrets.

What's the scoop on the turret issue? I just picked up a Prostaff 3-9x40 BDC Rimfire to try out and I'd like to know what to look for. I haven't mounted it yet but just looking through it I'm not super impressed.

[kylemurdoc]

I've had a Nikon scope sense 05 that's still able to hold M.O.A.