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  • sholling
    I need a LIFE!!
    CGN Contributor
    • Sep 2007
    • 10360

    M&P15-22 & RRA 2-Stage NM Trigger

    I didn't much care for the 7lb single stage trigger in my M&P15-22 so it was time to do something. Ibriefly considered a Geissele SSA but instead my wallet settled on Rock River Arms 2-Stage National Match trigger and wow what a difference. It's no Geissele but then again it was just over 1/2 the price of an of a Geissele SSA. The Geisseles in my AR15s have a 2lb 1st stage and a 2-1/2lb 2nd stage for a smooth 4-1/2lb trigger that feels like a crisp 2-1/2lb trigger . My RRA has a smooth 2-3/4lb 1st stage and a crisp 3-1/4lb 2nd stage for a total of 6-1/4lbs that feels like a crisp 3-1/2lb trigger . It's a huge improvement over the factory trigger! The durability of RRA National Match triggers is an open question (reports vary from good to awful) but it's not like I'm going to parachute into combat with the M&P15-22.

    If you've never used a 2-stage trigger there is a long take-up and then you hit a wall - the second stage. Move the trigger any more and it fires and because of the way the brain perceives pressure you only notice the weight of the 2nd stage. The idea is to have the safety of the total pull weight with the precision feel of the much lower 2nd stage pull weight.

    Installation was almost drop-in with no fitting or modifications required. Gently lower the hammer and remove the pin holding the old hammer in place using a 1/8" punch. Next remove the old trigger the same way. Lube the new pivot pins with light grease and install the new trigger (drops right in) and the new pivot pin. Then install the hammer under tension with legs to the rear and hold it in place with the the punch while you get the pin in. All that's left to do is test the trigger and the safety. I rest my thumb lightly on the hammer and carefully catch it to save dry fire wear and tear.

    I have not been to the range yet and can't go before Thursday or Friday but I'll followup with how it's shooting then.

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    wjc
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    • Dec 2009
    • 10874

    I'd be really curious to hear how this works, Sholling.

    What was the ballpark price on the trigger and did it come with installation instructions?

    My 15/22 needs more pimpin'.
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    • #3
      deguello
      Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 198

      Easily the most bang for your buck on any type AR rifle: Upgrading your trigger from the heavy, creepy, not-quite ever know when that let off happens.........Awesome. Dry fire away, it'll only get better with time!!
      Last edited by deguello; 07-09-2012, 5:15 PM. Reason: spell ck
      Well, you gonna pull those pistols or whistle dixie......

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      • #4
        sholling
        I need a LIFE!!
        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2007
        • 10360

        Originally posted by wjc
        I'd be really curious to hear how this works, Sholling.

        What was the ballpark price on the trigger and did it come with installation instructions?

        My 15/22 needs more pimpin'.
        I'll let you know as soon as I can. I'm hoping for Thursday or Friday.

        It was $99 plus shipping, Primary Arms had the best price I've seen from known legit company by $20. Their site seems down or I'd provide a link. Everybody has been out of them for like a month now and when I got the back in-stock email I jumped on it.
        "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

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        • #5
          damon1272
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 4857

          Scholling,
          I hope it works for you. I had issues with the trigger resetting in my 15/22. I ended up having to drop the old trigger back in. I hope it works for you just a heads up. May want to bring the original setup with you.

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          • #6
            sholling
            I need a LIFE!!
            CGN Contributor
            • Sep 2007
            • 10360

            Originally posted by damon1272
            Scholling,
            I hope it works for you. I had issues with the trigger resetting in my 15/22. I ended up having to drop the old trigger back in. I hope it works for you just a heads up. May want to bring the original setup with you.
            Thanks for the heads up. That may well be the case. The RRA's hammer spring seems a lot more stout than the factory hammer spring and there may not be enough recoil there to reset the trigger. If it's a problem I may experiment with the hammer spring.
            Last edited by sholling; 07-09-2012, 9:17 PM.
            "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

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            • #7
              sholling
              I need a LIFE!!
              CGN Contributor
              • Sep 2007
              • 10360

              Originally posted by damon1272
              Scholling,
              I hope it works for you. I had issues with the trigger resetting in my 15/22. I ended up having to drop the old trigger back in. I hope it works for you just a heads up. May want to bring the original setup with you.
              Thanks again. I've been doing some online research and found this thread. It looks like some people have had success but I won't know for sure until I go to the range.

              Has anyone successfully installed a RRA 2 stage trigger in their 15-22? I tried yesterday and it wouldn't work. It almost seemed like the rear of the trigger hung up on the safety(when it was dis-engaged). This trigger came out of one of my AR's and worked fine when it was removed a year...
              "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

              Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, and the California Rifle & Pistol Association

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              • #8
                sholling
                I need a LIFE!!
                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2007
                • 10360

                Originally posted by damon1272
                Scholling,
                I hope it works for you. I had issues with the trigger resetting in my 15/22. I ended up having to drop the old trigger back in. I hope it works for you just a heads up. May want to bring the original setup with you.
                I went to the range a couple of days early and the Rock River Arms 2-stage trigger worked like a charm. Not one failure to reset or fire.
                "Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--

                Proud Life Member: National Rifle Association, the Second Amendment Foundation, and the California Rifle & Pistol Association

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