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  • Mustang
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 4976

    USMC model 40?

    I saw this on an auction site and am trying to figure out if it is a USMC Property model 40 .22lr. The "property" marking on the receiver ring kind of looks like the "USMC Property" marking more than the "US " property marking of the Army rifles. What do you guys thank?











    Last edited by Mustang; 06-02-2025, 5:28 PM.
    ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...
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    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 56902

    I can't read the markings in your photos.
    I have a USMC marked M40 rimfire receiver that came from CMP as well as an M40 wood stock and a Krieger ratched rifled barrel that I still need to thread and chamber before I can assemble the rifle.
    Randall Rausch

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      kendog4570
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2008
      • 5156

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      I can't read the markings in your photos.
      I have a USMC marked M40 rimfire receiver that came from CMP as well as an M40 wood stock and a Krieger ratched rifled barrel that I still need to thread and chamber before I can assemble the rifle.
      Did you get a Remington bolt with it? PTG bolts leave a little to be desired.

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      • #4
        Tank 57
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 3945

        I haven't seen a USMC Property marked rifle. Just USMC. I think that rifle is probably marked US Property. Pictures are just not clear enough. Any way they can send you a better one?

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          Mustang
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 4976

          Originally posted by Tank 57
          I haven't seen a USMC Property marked rifle. Just USMC. I think that rifle is probably marked US Property. Pictures are just not clear enough. Any way they can send you a better one?
          "USMC property" marked Remington 40X .22 lr target rifles definitely exist. When sold by the CMP, they commanded a premium over the regular "US" marked 40-x's, which were used by the Army.





          Negative on additional pictures
          Last edited by Mustang; 06-04-2025, 11:15 AM.
          ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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          • #6
            Tank 57
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2009
            • 3945

            Thank you. Good to know. Love .22s especially military trainers.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 56902

              Originally posted by kendog4570

              Did you get a Remington bolt with it? PTG bolts leave a little to be desired.
              Unfortunately no.
              I do have a PTG bolt with it but I have not played with it to see what it's going to need.
              Besides them having sharp edges everywhere like the centerfire bolts, what else should I be looking to work on before I headspace a barrel to the PTG bolt?
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #8
                kendog4570
                Calguns Addict
                • Dec 2008
                • 5156

                Originally posted by ar15barrels

                Unfortunately no.
                I do have a PTG bolt with it but I have not played with it to see what it's going to need.
                Besides them having sharp edges everywhere like the centerfire bolts, what else should I be looking to work on before I headspace a barrel to the PTG bolt?
                I found that the material Kiff used is just not the same as Rem. His firing pin is one piece and quite soft and malleable when compared to factory two piece heat brazed part. If you dont have it, I can send you the shop manual pages for proper head space and FP setup.

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                  Mustang
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 4976

                  Originally posted by kendog4570

                  I found that the material Kiff used is just not the same as Rem. His firing pin is one piece and quite soft and malleable when compared to factory two piece heat brazed part. If you dont have it, I can send you the shop manual pages for proper head space and FP setup.
                  Ken, are the differences in the Remington and PTG obvious?
                  ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                  • #10
                    kendog4570
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 5156

                    Originally posted by Mustang

                    Ken, are the differences in the Remington and PTG obvious?
                    Not really to the untrained eye. As a general rule, Kiff takes liberties and shortcuts with some of his products, and blames you for not understanding his fast-talk. Once you start measuring/cutting/fitting his stuff the differences reveal themselves. If you have one and it works, run with it.

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                    • #11
                      Mustang
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 4976

                      Wondering if you can tell from the pictures in my first post if mine has a remington
                      ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                      • #12
                        kendog4570
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 5156

                        Originally posted by Mustang
                        Wondering if you can tell from the pictures in my first post if mine has a remington
                        I would say yes. What I call the 722 pattern. Its not swept like a 700 style and it's blue. I believe PTG only made them in SS. Are there any numbers electro-penciled on it?

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                        • #13
                          Mustang
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 4976

                          Originally posted by kendog4570

                          I would say yes. What I call the 722 pattern. Its not swept like a 700 style and it's blue. I believe PTG only made them in SS. Are there any numbers electro-penciled on it?
                          Thanks, Ken.

                          As soon as I figure out how to get the bolt out, I'll let you know about the EP numbers
                          ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                          • #14
                            kendog4570
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 5156

                            Originally posted by Mustang

                            Thanks, Ken.

                            As soon as I figure out how to get the bolt out, I'll let you know about the EP numbers
                            Should come out like any other Rem 722/700. Bolt release is just in front of the trigger shoe. Mechanism might be stuck with dried oil/crud/etc.722's have a coil spring instead of the later 700 type close pin torsion spring. Not uncommon for the spring to get bound up in it's hole. Pull the barreled action out of the stock and you can see whats going on. Might need a drink of oil to free up.

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