PROJECT APPLESEED 2025 NORCAL DATES

[NorCal22Gal]

Here are the 2025 Northern California Project Appleseed dates for Sacramento Valley, Red Bluff & Concord.
https://appleseedinfo.org/schedule/?...ate=California

2025 Project Appleseed Dates

Sacramento Valley Shooting Center
March 15-16 25yd
April 12-13 25yd (Patriot’s Day event)
May 3-4 Pistol Clinic
May 31-June 1 200 yd RKD
June 7-8 25 yd
Sept 20-21 25yd
Sept 27-18 Pistol Clinic
Oct 18-19 200 yd RKD

Red Bluff (Tehama Shooters Association)
March 29-30 Pistol Clinic
Sept 6-7 25 yd
Oct 11-12 Pistol Clinic

Concord (United Sportsmen):
March 29-30
April 26-27
June 21-22
Sept 13-14
Oct 25-26
Nov 15-16
(All Concord events are 25yd events)

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[yoteassasin]

Have you guys figured out how to wrap you head around letting shooters under 18 participate ?

[NorCal22Gal]

We are not currently cleared to have youth under 18 yr on the line. Hoping that changes.

[NorCal22Gal]

SACRAMENTO MARCH 15-16 25YD RIFLE EVENT
RED BLUFF MARCH 29-30 PISTOL CLINIC

Forgot to add
CONCORD MARCH 29-30 25 YD RIFLE EVENT



Hope to see you out there!!

[yoteassasin]

We are not currently cleared to have youth under 18 yr on the line. Hoping that changes.

Specifically why is that ?

[BrokerB]

I didnt know there was an age restriction. Was hoping to attend with my young teen

[Gun Kraft]

Reading between the lines it appears the Concord range is overly concerned about AB 2751 / BPC 22949.80 which prohibits advertising to minors. There are two things to note:

1. The law prohibits advertising. It does not prohibit training.
2. BPC 22949.80(a)(3) specifically exempts advertising any firearm safety program, firearm instructional course, or sport shooting event. So it is legal to advertise the Appleseed program to minors.

The Sacramento event does not appear to have this age restriction.

[NorCal22Gal]

All California events are restricted to no youth under 18. It's not the range making that decision. It's Project Appleseed. We spoke to a couple of 2A attorneys who pretty much said it's up to you, but if we were in your shoes we wouldn't do it. One fine has the potential to destroy Appleseed. So until the judge that is supposed to rewrite the decision that was handed down to him and overturn this, we will not have youth on any CA Appleseed event. Believe me, I want youth back out as much as you want to bring them out. Some other firearms organization has a lawsuit out on the issue. Not sure what the status is on it.

[Gun Kraft]

Thanks for the information, NorCal22Gal. When did you speak with the attorneys? When AB 2751 initially became law (2020) it did not include BPC 22949.80(a)(3). Many organizations like the Boy Scouts (now just Scouts) and Junior Olympics protested, and BPC 22949.80(a)(3) was added in 2022.

See Section 1 under Criminal Law and Procedure, pg. 26 of https://courts.ca.gov/system/files/f...ion_123022.pdf

As a result the current BPC code is https://law.justia.com/codes/califor...tion-22949-80/
(3) This subdivision does not apply to a communication offering or promoting any firearm safety program, hunting safety or promotional program, firearm instructional course, sport shooting event or competition, or any similar program, course, or event, nor does it apply to a communication offering or promoting membership in any organization, or promotion of lawful hunting activity, including, but not limited to, any fundraising event, youth hunting program, or outdoor camp.

If those attorneys knew of BPC 22949.80(a)(3) but still said "we wouldn't do it" I would very much like to know their reasoning. I am a firearms instructor and have advised some gun ranges about this subject based on my understanding of the law. If my understanding is incorrect I would very much like to know why.

[NorCal22Gal]

That part is ok as it's very clear. The part that is not so clear and could still get folks in trouble is the using brand name, as that is still advertising to a minor. That is unclear and we don't want to have issues with it. So if we mention the brand name of a rifle or scope or something like that within hearing of a minor, it's still considered advertising.

[Gun Kraft]

Interesting. Take this statement:
"We have a shooting event that teaches people how to shoot. If you use a S&W MP15-22 it must be checked for safe operation because of potential issues with the breech face counter bore depth."

It seems like a stretch to say that is advertising the MP15-22 to a minor. Instead it's promoting a firearm safety program and mentions a specific safety issue.

Will you be at Concord this weekend? Always nice to put a face to a user handle.

[Gun Kraft]

Attended the Concord event this weekend. It was bad (for Appleseed Project) in that there were only 7 or so students. It was good (for students) because we had lots of personal attention from the instructors. Appleseed teaches fundamental rifle marksmanship from the ground up. In that regard you can think of it as an intro PRS class with targets as small as 1" at 27 yards.

Possibly because of the small class size I received a lot of personal attention, which I didn't expect. As a more advanced shooter I expected to be left alone while instructors concentrated on less experienced shooters. Instead a number of them offered tips and suggestions that I was able to benefit from, and helped improve my score. The instructors have significant depth of knowledge regarding PRS and it's cheap to attend. I highly recommend doing this if you want to shoot rifles at distance better.

[NorCal22Gal]

Glad you made it to an event. We do try to assist everyone even if they appear to be a more advanced shooter. As one instructor says, you can't see what you look like, so while you might thing you have it sometimes we see something that can help you out.

[NorCal22Gal]

Interesting. Take this statement:
"We have a shooting event that teaches people how to shoot. If you use a S&W MP15-22 it must be checked for safe operation because of potential issues with the breech face counter bore depth."

It seems like a stretch to say that is advertising the MP15-22 to a minor. Instead it's promoting a firearm safety program and mentions a specific safety issue.

Will you be at Concord this weekend? Always nice to put a face to a user handle.

Exactly. It's hard to tell what would be construed as advertising or just using a specific example. Most people would be fine, but it only takes one person from a certain agency that decides it's advertising.

I was running a Pistol Clinic in Red Bluff over the weekend, instead of in Concord. I usually am the Shoot Boss for Sacramento & Red Bluff. If you'd like to stretch your rimfire's legs a bit, we do have rimfire know distance events in Sacramento.

[WWDHD?]

I'm interested in attending the April 26 & 27 event at Concord. Is it still .22 only and what are the hours? I don't see anywhere what time I'd have to get there - it's about a 50 mile trip one way for me.