Rimfires and fake cans

[Mossy Man]

any legal issues with rimfires and fake cans?

got the marauder kit (finally got the sights off) and put it on. want to use the fake can instead of the flash supressor, and foled it's 26.5".

[winnre]

Cooler looking airsoft stuff out there. It's a waste on a normal firearm IMHO.

[Mossy Man]

Cooler looking airsoft stuff out there. It's a waste on a normal firearm IMHO.

Thanks for the opinion.....do you know about the can?

[Norcal Industries]

nothing illegal about fake cans as long as you meet the length issue. i have one of the fake spikes on my m & p 22.

[Mossy Man]

nothing illegal about fake cans as long as you meet the length issue. i have one of the fake spikes on my m & p 22.

thanks.

[Matt P]

Just remember if the decible is lowered by 1 db, that makes it a felony. Just because the can was manufactured for Airsoft does not allow for use on real guns. Unless it slides over the barrel, and does not protrude past the muzzle.
If it suppresses sound, it is a suppressor.
The Spikes thing works well as a faux can due to the body of the can hiding the barrel, and not out past the muzzle.
Most Airsoft look-a-like suppressors have -14mm threads.

[Merc1138]

Just remember if the decible is lowered by 1 db, that makes it a felony. Just because the can was manufactured for Airsoft does not allow for use on real guns. Unless it slides over the barrel, and does not protrude past the muzzle.
If it suppresses sound, it is a suppressor.
The Spikes thing works well as a faux can due to the body of the can hiding the barrel, and not out past the muzzle.
Most Airsoft look-a-like suppressors have -14mm threads.

Not all of the spikes cans slide over the barrel. Only 2 out of the 3 models do that. A fake supressor that acts as an extension is just a matter of a solid tube threaded as a barrel extension that happens to have a wider body attached to it.

[Mossy Man]

Just remember if the decible is lowered by 1 db, that makes it a felony. Just because the can was manufactured for Airsoft does not allow fo use on real guns. Unless it slides over the barrel, and does not protrude past the muzzle.
If it suppresses sound, it is a suppressor.
The Spikes thing works well as a faux can due to the body of the can hiding the barrel, and not out past the muzzle.
Most Airsoft look-a-like suppressors have -14mm threads.

Slides over the barrel, doesnot go past the muzzle. Made of plastic.

[Roach_Infinity]

I got one of the Tactical Innovations 1/2 x 28 TPI .22 fake cans for use as a thread protector / shroud protector for use with a Tac Sol SB-X barrel I have yet to order... Was going to upload a couple of pics to show it off for ya but my ISP seems to be trashed tonight, I'll try to up them tomorrow morning at work.

-Eric

[winnre]

Fake cans suck. I have used real ones, they're nice but a pain to clean. Save the extra change and buy ammo or a small scope.

[Roach_Infinity]

@winnre: We get it, you like real silencers much better... However you should realise that there are a few people out there who, for whatever silly reason, like things that make their firearms look aesthetically pleasing. There are even a few who need them for a specific purpose, such as protecting the threads, and shroud interior on a Tactical Solutions SB-X barrel until they can move to Colorado, or some other free state where it is more than "theoretically possible" to acquire a legal suppressor. As far as being "a pain to clean" There I can help you out, Silencerco has realised this and released a suppressor called "Sparrow" that breaks down easily for cleaning: http://www.silencerco.com/?section=P...s&page=Sparrow

@Mossy Man: I would be really careful putting anything other than a "fake can intended for firearms use and designed to comply with all applicable control laws." I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the law says something along the lines of "a silencer, or anything that could be made to be a silencer, or using any part of a silencer, etc... Is a silencer... So if you take say... an airsoft fake silencer and put it on a firearm I would think that you would be opening yourself to prosecution for the applicable offenses. (I think a hollow tube with non permanently affixed endcaps can be considered a silencer in the eyes of the law.) Good commentary on these laws seems to be very hard to find, it pays to be careful.

-Eric

[Matt P]

My point is that many of the Airsoft cans have no internal baffles other then foam in quite a few. Many also do not have any type of solid core that can serve as a extended barrel past the muzzle.
Many of the faux suppressor work buy sliding over the exterior barrel, hiding some of it, and then screwing in flush with the muzzle. These are like the spikes one.
I would greatly encourage thinking about attaching any type of faux can that extends the barrel length. My concern will it suppress any sound.

[Roach_Infinity]

I think the Spike's Tactical can was discontinued... they may have a few on closeout still?

Anyhow, I had one of those recommended but I wasn't sure if it was going to fit inside the SB-X.

As far as your 1db suppression threshold... the manufacturers ensure the consumer that they do not affect the sound profile, while I find that unlikely, as adding an extention to the barrel changes the sound profile, and adding the fake can adds both length, and a larger diameter tube that gas is going to expand into (the one pictured above is ~9mm internal diameter) is definitely going to impact the sound profile, but I am betting that it isn't going to impact the noise level overmuch.

-Eric

[wamphyri13]

There are some fake cans for .22 pistols and .223 rifles for sale on ebay. Solid and can't reduce sound.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320824686142?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Check them out.
Ryan