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  • Eat Dirt
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 9546

    Will Glock ever make a .22 model ?

    Just a Thought ...

    We all know that Sig. has the / sig mosquito

    Has there been any rumors that Glock will make a .22 Cal. Pistol

    I know I have seen Clone .22 of the Glock but not the real thing
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    I miss the Good 'ol days of Cal -Guns
  • #2
    Chaos47
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 6615

    Going off memory:
    There's some ATF importation point scale and small calibers loose points
    That's why we don't have the .380 caliber 25 and 28 models.

    Also the Tenifer process supposedly makes cyanide as a byproduct and therefor can not be done state side. That's why frames are made Smyrna Georgia now but slides are imported from Austria.

    So unless GLOCK decides to make it state side and or not Tenifer it (or creates a new USA approved method). No I doubt we will ever have an official 22LR GLOCK

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    • #3
      gunnlover
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 1456

      Would be cheaper and easier to get a 22lr conversion kit.

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      • #4
        SouperMan
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1463

        You may get a Advantage Arms .22 conversion kit which comes with a special slide and magazine.

        Not factory Glock, but it will work.

        Sent from my mobile via Tapatalk.

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        • #5
          Slidesauce
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 74

          Chaos 47 is right about importation points.

          Each firearm must have a minimum of 75 points to be imported into the US. Firearms can gain points based on size, weight, caliber, safety features among other things. By my calculations a full-sized .22lr glock would score about 74 points if they managed to keep the weight the same as the glock 17 and added the target trigger from their compact glock line. A compact version of a glock .22lr would only have about 68 points. Both glocks would be unable to be imported because of this. Furthermore Glocks are not "safe" pistols according to the California DOJ, and the only reason why they are allowed for sale in CA is because the offending " unsafe pistols" were on sale before the 2001 law went into effect. In order to be sold in California any new Glock would have to have "safety features" like an external manual safety, a loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect, and more. That being said, if some how a Glock .22lr did get enough points to make it into the U.S., California would not allow the firearm on it's "roster of handguns certified for sale" so it would be difficult to get that glock in California unless you did something like an inter familial transfer or pawnshop consignment sale.



          Below ins an excerpt from: http://www.glockfaq.com/content.aspx...ock_model_info



          What is the BATF points system and how does it affect Glocks?
          Many of the Glock's parts and sometimes the whole gun are dictated or limited by the BATF's system of "import points". To qualify for import a pistol must score 75 points based on the following system:

          Characteristic Points
          Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1
          Forged steel frame 15
          Forged HTS alloy frame 20
          Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.) 1
          .22 short and .25 auto 0
          .22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3
          9mm parabellum and over 10
          Locked breech mechanism 5
          Loaded chamber indicator 5
          Grip safety 3
          Magazine safety 5
          Firing pin block or lock 10
          External hammer 2
          Double action 10
          Drift adjustable target sight 5
          Click adjustable target sight 10
          Target grips 5
          Target trigger 2
          Criminals love gun control.
          It makes their jobs safer.

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          • #6
            Eat Dirt
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2007
            • 9546

            Furthermore Glocks are not "safe" pistols according to the California DOJ, and the only reason why they are allowed for sale in CA is because the offending " unsafe pistols" were on sale before the 2001 law went into effect

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            Very Interesting !!!!!!!!!! / Never knew that

            Thanks for posting all the info.
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            I miss the Good 'ol days of Cal -Guns

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            • #7
              SantaCabinetguy
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2011
              • 15137

              Originally posted by Chaos47
              Going off memory:
              There's some ATF importation point scale and small calibers loose points
              That's why we don't have the .380 caliber 25 and 28 models.

              Also the Tenifer process supposedly makes cyanide as a byproduct and therefor can not be done state side. That's why frames are made Smyrna Georgia now but slides are imported from Austria.

              So unless GLOCK decides to make it state side and or not Tenifer it (or creates a new USA approved method). No I doubt we will ever have an official 22LR GLOCK
              Originally posted by Slidesauce
              Chaos 47 is right about importation points.

              Each firearm must have a minimum of 75 points to be imported into the US. Firearms can gain points based on size, weight, caliber, safety features among other things. By my calculations a full-sized .22lr glock would score about 74 points if they managed to keep the weight the same as the glock 17 and added the target trigger from their compact glock line. A compact version of a glock .22lr would only have about 68 points. Both glocks would be unable to be imported because of this. Furthermore Glocks are not "safe" pistols according to the California DOJ, and the only reason why they are allowed for sale in CA is because the offending " unsafe pistols" were on sale before the 2001 law went into effect. In order to be sold in California any new Glock would have to have "safety features" like an external manual safety, a loaded chamber indicator, magazine disconnect, and more. That being said, if some how a Glock .22lr did get enough points to make it into the U.S., California would not allow the firearm on it's "roster of handguns certified for sale" so it would be difficult to get that glock in California unless you did something like an inter familial transfer or pawnshop consignment sale.



              Below ins an excerpt from: http://www.glockfaq.com/content.aspx...ock_model_info



              What is the BATF points system and how does it affect Glocks?
              Many of the Glock's parts and sometimes the whole gun are dictated or limited by the BATF's system of "import points". To qualify for import a pistol must score 75 points based on the following system:

              Characteristic Points
              Length: for each 1/4" over 6" 1
              Forged steel frame 15
              Forged HTS alloy frame 20
              Unloaded weight w/mag (per oz.) 1
              .22 short and .25 auto 0
              .22 LR and 7.65mm to .380 auto 3
              9mm parabellum and over 10
              Locked breech mechanism 5
              Loaded chamber indicator 5
              Grip safety 3
              Magazine safety 5
              Firing pin block or lock 10
              External hammer 2
              Double action 10
              Drift adjustable target sight 5
              Click adjustable target sight 10
              Target grips 5
              Target trigger 2
              These guys have it right.
              America loves big calibers and, for better or worse, the deck is stacked against smaller calibers imports

              Glock would have to redesign the pistol or it could just make .22s in the US...
              Hauoli Makahiki Hou


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              • #8
                Chaos47
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 6615

                Good point on the roster, that's why we don't have the Gen 4's
                There's always single shot exemptions though...

                The main reason I think they will never do it is reputation.
                They don't want to give anyone the chance to say "Glocks jam" even if what they really mean is the Glock 22lr jams.
                That or if someone uses it in self defense and the newspaper just writes "Suspect shot with Glock 10 times survives"

                I don't think we will see a GLOCK 22LR, GLOCK 1911 or GLOCK Carbine till Gaston dies.
                Kinda like whats going on with Ruger now that Bill is dead.

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                • #9
                  TMC
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2348

                  Tactical solutions makes an excellent conversion.
                  where are my pistol mags?

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                  • #10
                    MXRider
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 2927

                    There are US made Glock slides for certain contracts, and Smyrna can make guns completely in house. They do not have the tenifer finish.

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                    • #11
                      Kodachrome
                      Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 379

                      It would be nice if they did.
                      But for now we have conversion kits.
                      +1 for the Advantage Arms kits, works great.

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                      • #12
                        chrisf
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 6501

                        I don't see the point in a .22 glock (not that I see the point for any glock) Your going to pay $400+ for a .22 handgun really??

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