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  • somekevinguy
    Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 168

    BX-25 Mag in California?

    I have some old 10 22, 25 round magazines that I've had since before 2000. I really want some of the new Ruger BX-25 mags and I saw places offering them as parts kits for California. I don't see how that would work since they weren't even made until after 2000. Can I buy a parts kit and disassemble my old 25 rounders and essentially replace every part so that I now have a legal BX-25?
  • #2
    Scratch705
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2009
    • 12537

    short answer yes.
    Originally posted by leelaw
    Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
    Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
    Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
    Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
    Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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    • #3
      Chaos47
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2010
      • 6615

      IF you can dissemble your old magazine and use one of the original parts in the new BX-25 then you can do it.

      Problem 1 I highly doubt you can dissemble your old magazine
      Problem 2 I highly doubt you can interchange any part

      IF you can get past those issues then you can later change out that one part with the new part. (Yes I know that sounds silly why didn't you just do that in the first place, legal hurdles)

      At no point can you have more regular capacity mags then you started with


      All that said doesn't mean a cop wont give you a hard time

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      • #4
        somekevinguy
        Member
        • Nov 2006
        • 168

        Obviously I probably can't interchange any parts. I was hoping the part about me not having any more magazines than I started with might save me if I disassembled my old ones.
        Last edited by somekevinguy; 01-19-2012, 1:23 PM.

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        • #5
          somekevinguy
          Member
          • Nov 2006
          • 168

          I just don't understand how these places can ship a BX-25 parts kit to California if there is no legal way to have and use an assembled one here.

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          • #6
            ojisan
            Agent 86
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2008
            • 11778

            Some of the plastic banana mags come part easily....Eatons in particular.
            Most of these mags use the snail coil type spring, which can easily be reused in place of the BX25 spring....Eatons and Ramlines use these springs, so do Butler Creeks.
            These springs rarely loose their tension, so using one that is 20 years old or so is no concern.
            The snail spring has a guiding collar in the middle, this can also be used to replace the BX25 part.
            The spring retaining pin can also be reused.
            The Eaton follower in particlular is easily modified to work in the BX25 mag.
            So yes, you can actually legally rebuild your old mag using the body and feed lips only from a BX25.

            Just do not end up with more over-10-round mags than you started out with.

            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
            I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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            • #7
              Scratch705
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 12537

              Originally posted by somekevinguy
              I just don't understand how these places can ship a BX-25 parts kit to California if there is no legal way to have and use an assembled one here.
              cause there are people that can buy those like LEOs and some people just like to have the parts kit so when they go out of state they can use it?

              iirc, the feedlips are interchangeable with a aftermarket magazine, not sure which one, but i could have remembered wrong.
              Originally posted by leelaw
              Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
              Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
              Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
              Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
              Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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              • #8
                Chaos47
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2010
                • 6615

                Parts kits do not meet the definition of "magazine" so they are not violating the importation part of the law.

                But if you build it (not as a rebuild or blocked to 10 rounds) you are violating the manufacturing part.

                It's all a tight rope act, playing with the wording of our silly laws.

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                • #9
                  Jeepers
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3415

                  Originally posted by Chaos47
                  IF you can dissemble your old magazine and use one of the original parts in the new BX-25 then you can do it.

                  Problem 1 I highly doubt you can dissemble your old magazine
                  Problem 2 I highly doubt you can interchange any part

                  IF you can get past those issues then you can later change out that one part with the new part. (Yes I know that sounds silly why didn't you just do that in the first place, legal hurdles)

                  At no point can you have more regular capacity mags then you started with


                  All that said doesn't mean a cop wont give you a hard time
                  Problem 1

                  first off if you are repairing a old ramline they split on the seam just fine, atleast my 25+ year old ones do... if yours isnt split already just break it open, you dont need to old one anyways ....

                  Problem 2

                  you can use the spring coil from the ramline in the BX without modding too much, or break out the dremel and some jbweld and you can make the follower work in a BX
                  Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
                  Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.

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                  • #10
                    somekevinguy
                    Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 168

                    Ok so I am able to fit some of my old parts into a BX-25 or visa versa and a month later I replace the remaining old parts with the rest of my BX-25 parts so I now have a full BX-25 magazine and I am at the range and come across supercop. Am I good or do I not pass go and go directly to jail? Has anyone here done the same thing and are using them?

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                    • #11
                      Scratch705
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2009
                      • 12537

                      Originally posted by somekevinguy
                      Ok so I am able to fit some of my old parts into a BX-25 or visa versa and a month later I replace the remaining old parts with the rest of my BX-25 parts so I now have a full BX-25 magazine and I am at the range and come across supercop. Am I good or do I not pass go and go directly to jail? Has anyone here done the same thing and are using them?
                      anyone running pmags and other such new magazines for ar15's seem to not be hassled that much.

                      possession is legal, and it is up to the cops to prove you didn't have old standard cap magazines that you rebuilt using new magazine parts.
                      Originally posted by leelaw
                      Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
                      Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
                      Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
                      Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
                      Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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                      • #12
                        Jeepers
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3415

                        Originally posted by somekevinguy
                        Ok so I am able to fit some of my old parts into a BX-25 or visa versa and a month later I replace the remaining old parts with the rest of my BX-25 parts so I now have a full BX-25 magazine and I am at the range and come across supercop. Am I good or do I not pass go and go directly to jail? Has anyone here done the same thing and are using them?
                        for what? there is nothing illegal about having ANY mag , the burden of proof is on LEO
                        Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
                        Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.

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                        • #13
                          somekevinguy
                          Member
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 168

                          Yeah I have kind of had this same question in a few cases. I have a registered AW AR15 with tons of the old school 30 round mags and I was wondering if I could convert to some of the new styles. I also have a bunch of 15 round Beretta 92FS mags and I wanted to convert to the new sand resistant mags that come with the 92FS M9A1.

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                          • #14
                            somekevinguy
                            Member
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 168

                            Originally posted by Jeepers
                            for what? there is nothing illegal about having ANY mag , the burden of proof is on LEO
                            . Well in this case I will have a mag that didn't even come out until after 2000. So that might be proof enough for some. I don't want to get to the part where I am explaining to the judge how I started out ordering BX-25 parts for my old mags and it eventually evolved into a full BX-25 mag.

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                            • #15
                              stix213
                              AKA: Joe Censored
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 19002

                              Originally posted by somekevinguy
                              I just don't understand how these places can ship a BX-25 parts kit to California if there is no legal way to have and use an assembled one here.
                              LEO's can legally buy them fully assembled, and its not impossible for them to break and need replacement parts. Its also not impossible to have found one if you are a non-LEO, even if highly improbable.

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