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Okay, I am on a rimfire kick these days and I have been checking out the Umarex HK 416. Does anybody have one, or have any experiences with them? I already have a S&W 15-22, Umarex Colt M4 Ops, and a Ruger SR-22, but there is always room for another....right?
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I've got one- Very accurate, all metal construction, haven't had a single issue FTF/FTE. You might as well finish out your collection . . . -
The H&K/Umarex HK416 is a product improved version of the Colt/Umarex M4/M16 .22LR.
They took all the compliants about the Colt/Umarex and addressed most of them when they redesigned the H&K/Umarex HK416 airsoft into a .22LR rifle.
IMO...
From shooting/handling, my ranking of the tacticool .22LR rifles:
WASR-22
SIG SIG-522
S&W M&P-15/22
H&K/Umarex HK-416
H&K/Umarex MP-5
GSG/ATI GSG-5/GSG-522
ISSC MK-22
Colt/Umarex M-4Last edited by Quiet; 12-22-2011, 7:38 AM.sigpic
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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I wouldn't get one again.. Not as customizable as the m&p and gets very dirty. Hard to clean without a full detail strip.-
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Get that pps50 that looks like a burp gun! Now that's cool!-
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I have the Umarex HK 416 and have shot 1,500 rounds through it without a single failure of any kind. I have only put CCI Minimags through it. The gun is easier to clean than the Umarex Colt M4 Ops, since you did not have to take off the flash suppressor first. However, as the previous poster said, you cannot take the bolt out without a detailed field strip. I just spray in the M-Pro 7 Gun Cleaner, let it drain, lubricate, run the Hoppes snake bore several times, then lubricate the moving parts. I clean the gun each time that I have used it. Do not over-lubricate, otherwise the chamber will get really dirty quickly.
See video here from Umarex.
If you already have a Umarex Colt M4 Ops, I would not bother to purchase a Umarex HK 416. They are much too similar, but it is your choice.BitterOldMan
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No problems with mine. Shoots good. Solid construction. Oh...and it looks good.Comment
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I think they changed the need to unscrew the flash hider before stripping, the dust cover stays closed, and the safety / select fire switch rotates 90 deg. Instead of 180 deg.
the first a big improvement, the second and third really cosmetic ones. The forward assist, from what I've been told, is nonfunctional as you could accidentally cause the rim fire cartridge to fire if the weapon actually had a functional forward assist.. And a functional bolt release would require a redesign of the weapon.
Not a big improvement, but an incremental one. To me the weapon still has fundamental flaws, most notably HOW DIRTY IT GETS..
Damn thing is filthy. I just fired my umarex again today, this time dry, and it is a little better than when I was running it wet, but it's still a mess, and still needs a complete tear down to be able to clean the bolt face and chamber properly.
The weapon is really not designed to be detail stripped on a regular basis and I'm afraid doing so will cause wear and tear to the parts, or I will lose a tiny screw or spring when I open it up. Not a design with longevity!-
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"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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It's the magazine capacity that would make it legal/illegal in CA.-
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