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    Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 104

    Want to practice at 100yards

    I want to shoot a .22 at 100yards to practice my shooting.
    Is this reasonable?
    I was thinking of a bolt action .22 maybe a CZ 452 Varmint, or some thing similar. did some reading on this forum last night looking for input. would like to stay under 500 for the riffle.
    " Don't you ever stand for that sort of thing.
    Someone ever tries to kill you, you try to kill 'em right back."

    Captain Malcolm Reynolds
  • #2
    wentbig
    Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 350

    For the money the best rifle will be the Savage mod 93, you get the adjustable trigger.
    I shoot my Savage 93 in .22 WMR at 100 yards all the time.
    Get a $100. BSA scope or any cheep scope in a min. of 16 power.
    I bought my set up with scope for $180. from a Calgun nut.
    From the bench you can shoot 1.5" groups with CCI ammo.
    Remember to let all the other shooters with $1000. rifles see your target.
    Last edited by wentbig; 11-17-2011, 7:44 PM.

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    • #3
      thenodnarb
      Veteran Member
      • May 2009
      • 2603

      I sometimes shoot shotgun shells at 100 yds with my scoped CZ 513. I did a DIY trigger job, and free floated the barrel(which was easy and quick). With a 9 power scope, federal bulk ammo, a good rest, and good breathing and trigger control, I can consistently hit shotgun shells at that distance.Its great practice.

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      • #4
        Izzy43
        CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
        • Dec 2009
        • 2670

        Your first thought is the best, get a CZ. If not a CZ then a Savage or Marlin with a heavy barrel. Any of the three will be good for 100yd but in my experience the CZ will have the edge.

        For accuracy forget bulk ammo. Wolf Match Target or SK Standard + will be more accurate and consistant at that distance.

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        • #5
          brianinca
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 359

          I shoot my Ruger 10/22 at 100 yards exclusively. I have it dialed in for Wolf Match Target / S&K Target and get consistent .8 MOA 10 shot groups if I get to my range before the wind picks up. I know I have to dial down 6 MOA if I shoot CCI Stingers. Easy-peasy.

          I started with a bone stock 10/22 blue steel from Big 5 that I bought on sale AFTER I ordered an $87 closeout A&B barrel/Carbelite stock from Midway for $87. Came in a plastic clamshell, about lost a thumb getting it out. Started with a CDNN kit, including a 4X Simmons. At 50 yards it was worthless as a training tool, a hole for 10 rds tells you NOTHING about your technique (never shot it with a factory barrel or stock).

          I upgraded the peripherals to match the barrel. I got to .8 MOA at 100 yards for ~$445.

          As it stands now with a Boyd's Tacticool stock totally free floated to the end, a Clark Custom parts kit 2.5 lb trigger, and a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x40 AO Mildot, it still shoots as well as it did when I figured out it was a 100 yard .8 MOA gun, with a Hogue and a Tasco World Class Plus 3.5-10x50.

          Point being, the last $500+ I put into the rifle didn't make it shoot any better, it was more a matter of making it easier for me to shoot it well even if I didn't do my part.

          The 10/22 is the hands down "team to beat" for accuracy simply because everyone in the world has a trick to make it more accurate. The CZ's are wonderfully built rifles, I have 2 CZ Mausers, but for the money they will never TOUCH what a bubba'd 10/22 is capable of.

          Old, crummy picture of 10 shots at 100 yards:


          Regards,
          Brian in CA
          Last edited by brianinca; 11-18-2011, 10:15 AM. Reason: Fix picture link per Izzy43's help

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          • #6
            Dion
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 818

            Dustin (winner of Top Shot) hit that damn golf ball at 100 yards, first shot. That was nothing short of bad azz.
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            • #7
              Izzy43
              CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
              • Dec 2009
              • 2670

              Originally posted by brianinca
              I shoot my Ruger 10/22 at 100 yards exclusively. I have it dialed in for Wolf Match Target / S&K Target and get consistent .8 MOA 10 shot groups if I get to my range before the wind picks up. I know I have to dial down 6 MOA if I shoot CCI Stingers. Easy-peasy.

              I started with a bone stock 10/22 blue steel from Big 5 that I bought on sale AFTER I ordered an $87 closeout A&B barrel/Carbelite stock from Midway for $87. Came in a plastic clamshell, about lost a thumb getting it out. Started with a CDNN kit, including a 4X Simmons. At 50 yards it was worthless as a training tool, a hole for 10 rds tells you NOTHING about your technique (never shot it with a factory barrel or stock).

              I upgraded the peripherals to match the barrel. I got to .8 MOA at 100 yards for ~$445.

              As it stands now with a Boyd's Tacticool stock totally free floated to the end, a Clark Custom parts kit 2.5 lb trigger, and a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x40 AO Mildot, it still shoots as well as it did when I figured out it was a 100 yard .8 MOA gun, with a Hogue and a Tasco World Class Plus 3.5-10x50.

              Point being, the last $500+ I put into the rifle didn't make it shoot any better, it was more a matter of making it easier for me to shoot it well even if I didn't do my part.

              The 10/22 is the hands down "team to beat" for accuracy simply because everyone in the world has a trick to make it more accurate. The CZ's are wonderfully built rifles, I have 2 CZ Mausers, but for the money they will never TOUCH what a bubba'd 10/22 is capable of.

              Old, crummy picture of 10 shots at 100 yards:


              Regards,
              Brian in CA
              Picture didn't show, I would sure like to see that 100yd target with 10 rounds in .8 inches.

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              • #8
                Demoni
                Junior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 33

                Originally posted by Dion
                Dustin (winner of Top Shot) hit that damn golf ball at 100 yards, first shot. That was nothing short of bad azz.
                Pretty sure it was actually 100 feet


                22lr can be a super accurate cartridge. Here is a photo of a target from a few weeks back. 100 yards 5 shot group, shot from my Savage running an muller 24x scope. Shot on a warm morning with no wind, the flyer was completely my fault.



                When you start dealing with wind it defiantly gets interesting but is also really fun. Having flags to read the changing conditions really helps a ton as the light 22 rounds get tossed around a good amount. An standard 36g round will get pushed almost 8 inches off POA with an 10mph cross wind.

                With flags I can still normally group at 1 MOA in windy conditions.


                Try it at 200y if you really want to have some fun!

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                • #9
                  Izzy43
                  CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 2670

                  Originally posted by brianinca
                  I shoot my Ruger 10/22 at 100 yards exclusively. I have it dialed in for Wolf Match Target / S&K Target and get consistent .8 MOA 10 shot groups if I get to my range before the wind picks up. I know I have to dial down 6 MOA if I shoot CCI Stingers. Easy-peasy.

                  I started with a bone stock 10/22 blue steel from Big 5 that I bought on sale AFTER I ordered an $87 closeout A&B barrel/Carbelite stock from Midway for $87. Came in a plastic clamshell, about lost a thumb getting it out. Started with a CDNN kit, including a 4X Simmons. At 50 yards it was worthless as a training tool, a hole for 10 rds tells you NOTHING about your technique (never shot it with a factory barrel or stock).

                  I upgraded the peripherals to match the barrel. I got to .8 MOA at 100 yards for ~$445.

                  As it stands now with a Boyd's Tacticool stock totally free floated to the end, a Clark Custom parts kit 2.5 lb trigger, and a Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24x40 AO Mildot, it still shoots as well as it did when I figured out it was a 100 yard .8 MOA gun, with a Hogue and a Tasco World Class Plus 3.5-10x50.

                  Point being, the last $500+ I put into the rifle didn't make it shoot any better, it was more a matter of making it easier for me to shoot it well even if I didn't do my part.

                  The 10/22 is the hands down "team to beat" for accuracy simply because everyone in the world has a trick to make it more accurate. The CZ's are wonderfully built rifles, I have 2 CZ Mausers, but for the money they will never TOUCH what a bubba'd 10/22 is capable of.

                  Old, crummy picture of 10 shots at 100 yards:


                  Regards,
                  Brian in CA
                  Thanks for reposting the target, you are a true marksman. I strive to be able to shoot that well some day. Five shot groups at MOA is a challenge for most but a 10 shot group, well that is exemplary.

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                  • #10
                    Izzy43
                    CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 2670

                    Originally posted by Demoni
                    Pretty sure it was actually 100 feet


                    22lr can be a super accurate cartridge. Here is a photo of a target from a few weeks back. 100 yards 5 shot group, shot from my Savage running an muller 24x scope. Shot on a warm morning with no wind, the flyer was completely my fault.



                    When you start dealing with wind it defiantly gets interesting but is also really fun. Having flags to read the changing conditions really helps a ton as the light 22 rounds get tossed around a good amount. An standard 36g round will get pushed almost 8 inches off POA with an 10mph cross wind.

                    With flags I can still normally group at 1 MOA in windy conditions.


                    Try it at 200y if you really want to have some fun!
                    You and brianinca are doing some fantastic shooting. Which Savage model and what ammo? That target is impressive. I am always amazed when folks scoff at a rimfire shooter at my range. While they shoot their 308, 223 and 45-70 @ 50 yds and are proud of 1" groups and I'm shooting sub-moa @ 50 yds with a 22lr. Guess they like the big bang.

                    One of my goals is to shoot sub-moa @ 100yds, shot MOA once with my 22WMR and 17HMR but not there yet with 22lr. Not the gun, scope or ammo, its me. Tough to do.

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                    • #11
                      Demoni
                      Junior Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 33

                      Originally posted by Izzy43
                      You and brianinca are doing some fantastic shooting. Which Savage model and what ammo? That target is impressive. I am always amazed when folks scoff at a rimfire shooter at my range. While they shoot their 308, 223 and 45-70 @ 50 yds and are proud of 1" groups and I'm shooting sub-moa @ 50 yds with a 22lr. Guess they like the big bang.

                      One of my goals is to shoot sub-moa @ 100yds, shot MOA once with my 22WMR and 17HMR but not there yet with 22lr. Not the gun, scope or ammo, its me. Tough to do.

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                      • #12
                        JAGACIDA
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1211

                        I agree with you Izzy, it's tough and gets tougher as we age. I was a lot better when I was younger too. The right gun, sights, ammo, weather and no wind. That's what keeps bringing us back. I've got the larger calibers, but my rimfires give me the most enjoyment. New challenges every time. Never bored.

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                        • #13
                          troutbum54
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 543

                          This video is of a CZ 452, shooting with open sights at 225yds.

                          "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese" - Steven Wright

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                          • #14
                            Izzy43
                            CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 2670

                            Originally posted by JAGACIDA
                            I agree with you Izzy, it's tough and gets tougher as we age. I was a lot better when I was younger too. The right gun, sights, ammo, weather and no wind. That's what keeps bringing us back. I've got the larger calibers, but my rimfires give me the most enjoyment. New challenges every time. Never bored.
                            I hear you. I'm 64 now and never really shot seriously as a youngster. Off to the Navy at 19 and my next firearm was a BAR in Vietnam, spray and pray type of shooting. Out of the Navy at 39 and didn't start shooting again until two years ago. Gone from plinking to semi-serious bench rest shooting with rimfire only. Learning a lot, mostly that my eye sight is shot. Still I have tons of fun trying to get better.

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