Magazine capacity for rim fire

[thrasherfox]

I thought that 10 round magazine capacity was limited to center fire rifles.

Does the 10 round magazine capacity include rimfire rifles also?

[Quiet]

The large capacity magazine laws apply to all ammunition feeding devices, except for:
Any caliber magazine that have been permanently altered to hold 10 or less rounds. [PC 12020(c)(25)(A)]
.22 caliber fixed tubular magazine. [PC 12020(c)(25)(B)]
Any caliber fixed tubular magazine on a lever-action firearm. [PC 12020(c)(25)(C)]





Penal Code 12020
(a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
(c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
(A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
(B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
(C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.

[Jake71]

What the state is trying to sy is that only Criminals are allowed to have large capacity magazines.

[lgm118icbm]

If you legally possessed them prior to the ban then you can use them in any rimfire gun that is not a pistol with a fixed magazine outside the pistol grip.

But the ban on the sale, lending, importing, manufacturing.... of large capacity magazines (rimfire included) applies as stated above.

[Gryff]

Let's be clear (and this info is posted in more than one thread, including a FAQ), there is no law prohibiting possession. The "high-cap mag ban" prohibits selling, transferring, importing, or building.

[MARLANDO]

Little off topic here, but You dont need a Bullet type button on a rim fire also ?

[sleepur606]

No bullet button on rimfires. The bullet button related legislation for assault weapons applies to centerfire rifles.

12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following: (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following: STUFF

(emphasis mine)

Take note of the bold. There are rules for pistols that are another game entirely. But bolt action, pump action, lever action, and any non-semi auto are pretty much fair game for anything outside NFA territory.

[MARLANDO]

No bullet button on rimfires. The bullet button related legislation for assault weapons applies to centerfire rifles.

(emphasis mine)

Take note of the bold. There are rules for pistols that are another game entirely. But bolt action, pump action, lever action, and any non-semi auto are pretty much fair game for anything outside NFA territory.

Thanks !

[easy]

What the state is trying to say is that only Criminals are allowed to have large standard capacity magazines.

FTFY

Honest folks get the limited capacity shaft.

[thrasherfox]

I think my confusion had to do with the magazine vs the tube.

I bought one of those 22 Long Rifle conversion kits for my AR and my purchase with three 26 round magazine was gracefully denied lol.

I honestly thought they were legal. Sure wish this magazine ban would get shot down some day.

[Chaos47]

I think my confusion gad to do with the magazine vs the tube.

I bought one of those 22 Long Rifle conversion kits for my AR and my purchase with three 26 round magazine was gracefully denied lol.

I honestly thought they were legal. Sure which this magazine ban would get shot down some day.

It will some day Calguns is working on it

[cmichini]

It will some day Calguns is working on it

If you move to America there ain't no bedwetting magazine ban.

[MrPlink]

If you legally possessed them prior to the ban then you can use them in any rimfire gun that is not a pistol with a fixed magazine outside the pistol grip.

But the ban on the sale, lending, importing, manufacturing.... of large capacity magazines (rimfire included) applies as stated above.

well, if you follow your 2nd statement it kinda bypasses your first one.

The key word is POSSESSION, in which case the only way possession would actually be illegal, is if the the magazine in question was stolen, otherwise regardless of how the magazine came into your possession, POSSESSION once again is not illegal. In which case, the use of said magazine (with the clear exception of using hi caps in a mag locked firearm - lets leave shotguns out of this for the time being) is perfectly fine as well.

Finding a magazine is PERFECTLY legal. However unlikely, it does happen. Search the centerfire rifle forum. There was recently a case of a Calgunner finding a chewed up stanag mag. Totally legal for him to rebuild into a fully functioning 30rd mag, and use in a "featureless rifle"

Given what the law actually says, it would arguably also be legal for one to purchase a hi-cap, as it specifically outlines the act of SELLING. Some have suggested that this could possibly trigger other charges for the buyer even though they would not be in direct violation of PC12020. But dont be the test case!

[MrPlink]

No bullet button on rimfires. The bullet button related legislation for assault weapons applies to centerfire rifles.

not exactly, a rimfire pistol with a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip would also need a bullet button, such as a AR pistol in .22lr or a MP5k clone in .22lr etc etc etc

It does not apply to long arms that are rimfire