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  • #16
    Mssr. Eleganté
    Blue Blaze Irregular
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2005
    • 10401

    You're probably getting confused because you are dealing with two separate issues, the "assault weapon" law and the "large capacity magazine" law.

    Rimfire rifles, like your 10/22 are exempt from California's "assault weapon" law. You can use any sized magazine that you legally possess in your 10/22.

    In California it is illegal for you to import or assemble a large capacity magazine for your 10/22. It is also illegal for anybody to sell or loan you a large capacity magazine for your 10/22. But possession and use of large capacity magazines for your 10/22 are not illegal. So if you already possess a large capacity magazine for your 10/22 you can use it or even repair it with new parts. But you can't acquire any more of them in California.
    Last edited by Mssr. Eleganté; 08-11-2011, 12:50 PM.
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    • #17
      ke6guj
      Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Nov 2003
      • 23725

      Originally posted by sendithit
      So let me wrap what Im reading here around my head:

      1) It is not legal for private citizen to sell, buy, import ANY detachable-type magazine AFTER Jan 01 2000 that holds >10rds in CA, but some firearms dealers in CA do stock them but will only sell them to LEO.
      correct.

      FFLs

      2) It is legal as a private citizen to buy detachable-type magazines that hold >10rd on-line because the out-of-state dealer will sell it as a "rebuild kit" to rebuild my pre-2000 magazine that I may or may not have and the good dealer will be a good dealer and sell it to me no questions asked.
      no, that out-of-state seller may not sell you a 11+ round magazine. he may sell you a repair kit that consists of most/all of the parts of a magazine. No, you may not assemble that repair kit into a new 11+ round magazine. You may use those parts to repair an existing 11+ round magazine that you already own.

      3) Detachable-type magazines do not have a manufacture date and there are no magazine police or magazine registration laws in CA.
      some do, some don't.

      4) I can USE pre-01/01/00 detachable-type magazine that holds >10rds in my 10/22 because it only shoots RIMFIRE-type cartridges even though my 10/22 has a pistolgrip that extends below the bottom of the trigger blade, thus it looks "evil" to scared and ignorant Californians.
      yes, you can.

      5) I can legally possess and buy detachable magazines, but I cannot USE the magazines in my rifle
      you can legally possess them, but nobody can sell you an 11+ round magazine today. YOu can use them in your 10/22 without violating an additional laws.




      Originally posted by sendithit

      Is the term "evil feature" applicable to rimfire rifles, thus requiring a bb when modified as the one in my next question below?
      there is no CA law that deals with "evil features" on rimfire rifles. Consult the rifle flowchart for more info. http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

      Is a pistol gripped, flash hidden, collapse-abled/fold-abled buttstocked) 10/22 "tactical rifle" with a 16"-barrel exempt from the 10rd magazine limit in CA?
      yes, you can use 11+ round detachable magazines in that 10/22. You may not make a 11+ round magazine for that 10/22.

      Seems like the 'ol wink-n-nod is the norm when it pertains to law interpretation, opinion, advice, and action if it involves CA's silly gun-laws....in other words "use at your own risk".
      smart people never suggest that you play fast and loose with CA's gun-laws. We explain what the law says and doesn't say.
      Jack



      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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      • #18
        sendithit
        Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 196

        So a fellow gun enthusiast who is in legal possession of 11+rd magazines can legally gift them to a fellow enthusiast. And since the lucky gift recipient did not BUY the magazine from the gifter, it is ultimately legal for the giftee to possess and use them in his/her 10/22....all 25+rds in one long magazine. But wait!!!!! BX25s did not exist prior to 01-01-00, so the 10/22 enthusiasts are s.o.l.....unless they are LEO in CA and use them for "training" purposes (however "training" is interpreted)......right?
        Last edited by sendithit; 08-11-2011, 4:15 PM.
        Miles to go before I sleep

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        • #19
          Mssr. Eleganté
          Blue Blaze Irregular
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2005
          • 10401

          Originally posted by sendithit
          So a fellow gun enthusiast who is in legal possession of 11+rd magazines can legally gift them to a fellow enthusiast.
          Giving them is illegal too.
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          • #20
            ke6guj
            Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Nov 2003
            • 23725

            Originally posted by sendithit
            So a fellow gun enthusiast who is in legal possession of 11+rd magazines can legally gift them to a fellow enthusiast

            please read the PC yourself,

            12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
            (2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.

            and this letter as well, http://hoffmang.com/firearms/DOJ-lar...2005-11-10.pdf
            Jack



            Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

            No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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            • #21
              sendithit
              Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 196

              This makes me sad
              Miles to go before I sleep

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