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  • Cpt Cautious
    Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 280

    m4 or m16 .22 accuracy?

    Hey guys, so i currently have the colt umarex m4 in .22 but i am contemplating switching to the same gun but m16 version.

    my main reason for wanting the change is the longer barrel length as im expecting better accuracy. should the swap give me better accuracy? or will i not notice it.

    looking for shooting mainly at 100yards, maybe some messing around at 200
  • #2
    gil671
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 753

    I used to have the Umarex m16 version and was very accurate. My uncle has
    the m4 version. Mine was more accurate than his in terms of longer distances
    beyond 75 yards. We both bought our rifles brand new but his was more picky with regards to the type of ammo used and had many FTF and light strikes. Out of 2500 rnds thru mine i only experienced 2 FTF because i didnt insert the magazine correctly.
    My feedback https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/itrader.php?u=83493

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    • #3
      Cpt Cautious
      Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 280

      thanks for your input
      what was the best groupings you could get at around 100yards
      what ammo did you find best?

      can anyone else chime in on this? id like to get multiple confirmations before i spend the money to make the change.

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      • #4
        donw
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 1754

        i have a spikes ST-22.

        it's not a 'tack driver' out to 75-100 yds (with A2 sights) but very near to it...good enough for accurate hunting/plinking...
        NRA life member, US Army Veteran

        i am a legend in my own mind...

        we are told not to judge muslims by what a few do...yet, the NRA membership and firearms owners are ALL considered as radical...

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        • #5
          Cpt Cautious
          Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 280

          anyone else with experience with the differences? really need to know if i will see a definitive difference between the 16in barrel of the m4 and the 21in barrel of the m16

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          • #6
            gil671
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 753

            Originally posted by Cpt Cautious
            thanks for your input
            what was the best groupings you could get at around 100yards
            what ammo did you find best?

            can anyone else chime in on this? id like to get multiple confirmations before i spend the money to make the change.
            I didn't measure my groupings but it was way more accurate
            than the m4. It's best with HV rounds or cci mini mags but I never
            had problems with other standard rounds. Give it a good cleaning
            after shooting and well lubed and you should be fine.
            My feedback https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/itrader.php?u=83493

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            • #7
              M4rk
              Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 169

              i dont know how much more accurate u can get.. but alot of things comes in perspective when it comes to accuracy. has the gun been cleaned/oiled properly... ammunition.. weather... trigger pull.. how good the ZERO on the scope... and also the shooter. if u can hit a 3 inch target at 100yrds.. i think thats pretty darn good... hit a 5 inch target at 200... thats really good. 300yrds pushin it... LOL

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              • #8
                Cpt Cautious
                Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 280

                @ m4rk

                i fully understand what you are saying and agree with you, but you are missing my question. What im looking to find out is that with all other factors equal will the 21in barrel be more accurate than the 16in barrel. I think that is an obvious yes of course, but refining my question, id like to know if the accuracy is noticeable and large, or if its a small difference

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                • #9
                  gil671
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 753

                  IMHO and experience I would say yes it's a big difference.
                  My feedback https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/itrader.php?u=83493

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                  • #10
                    Cpt Cautious
                    Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 280

                    @gil671 thanks again definitely making my decision easier

                    anyone else have anymore input?

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                    • #11
                      gil671
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 753

                      Originally posted by Cpt Cautious
                      @gil671 thanks again definitely making my decision easier

                      anyone else have anymore input?
                      Glad to be of help to a fellow Calgunner
                      My feedback https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/itrader.php?u=83493

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                      • #12
                        shadow65
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1301

                        If there is a difference it's either due to barrel quality or sight radius. A longer barrel has nothing to do with accuracy.
                        A .22LR burns all the powder in 16 to 18"
                        200 yards is a lot to ask of a .22LR. Of course with enough arc you can lob a bullet in but there are so many variables that can throw a .22LR off, it's not going to be precise.
                        Dave N
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                        • #13
                          MrPlink
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 12532

                          Originally posted by shadow65
                          If there is a difference it's either due to barrel quality or sight radius. A longer barrel has nothing to do with accuracy.
                          A .22LR burns all the powder in 16 to 18"
                          200 yards is a lot to ask of a .22LR. Of course with enough arc you can lob a bullet in but there are so many variables that can throw a .22LR off, it's not going to be precise.
                          Dave N
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                          The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

                          disclaimer:
                          everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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                          • #14
                            mif_slim
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                            • Apr 2008
                            • 10089

                            You can reach and touch 300 yards with a 22 if you wanted to. I shoot 250-300 yards all the time. Only challenging thing you gotta do is adjust 45+MOA to get there, which means some scopes would of bottom out loooonnnngg before, but you can always kentucky windage your shots!

                            As someone else said, the barrel length doesnt make it more accurate, it does however give you more velocity but like they also said, 16-18" is max for 22LR powder.
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                            • #15
                              caoboy
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 2400

                              If you are going to be paper punching at 100yd, why that gun? Why not a marlin 795, much cheaper, and probably more accurate. I have one and it makes it too easy and boring. A 10/22 would be a much better investment if you are looking to make a tack driver and you can upgrade if/when you need to.

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