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  • ummagawd
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 73

    How to make your Advantage Arms Glock 22 conversion eat anything

    I've been meaning to post this for fellow CG'ers but never got around to it mainly because I made the mod to all of my mags and forgot to take a before and after picture to help understand what you need to do.

    Well, today I just got another kit for my 35 and thus have a virgin mag to show what you need to do. My 19-22 conversion kit is for sale BTW.

    So for those of you with the AA 22 conversion kit, you might already know by now that it's a finicky conversion kit at best with remington golds. This was not going to work for me because I had all kinds of different 22 ammo and I just really hated how dirty the remmy golds are.

    So I set out to figure our WTF is going on... My issue was always a failure to extract or a stovepipe. So I took the barrel out and set it on the frame and inserted a magazine to see if I could find anything.

    What I found is easy to miss... but if you look below... the path of extraction that the bullet needs to take is obstructed just enough by the lips of the magazine (not to be mistaken by the follower). I'm holding the follower down with the slide release BTW... that's why you don't see the follower.


    So I took a dremel and simply removed material from the magazine lips (again NOT the follower!!!). I recommend sticking an allen wrench into the cut on the side of the magazine to keep the follower down. Or simply disassemble it. You only need to remove a little bit... enough so that it's not in the way when the bullet is being extracted. You can pretty much just eyeball this if you hold it up to your eye. The result should look like this.


    Here's a side by side comparison of a modified mag (left) and unmodified (right). Note that I accidentally didn't hold them perfectly even (the followers heights should have been even) so it doesn't look too dramatic of a difference in this shot.


    Here's another one... if you look real closely... the mag up front is the modified one and if you look behind it... you'll see how much material I removed.


    I also polished the feed ramp of the barrel, but I highly doubt it had any influence.

    So... after I did this to all of my AA mags... guess what.... this thing eats ANYTHING now! The ONLY time I can get it to hiccup on me now is if I let the feed ramp, chamber/barrel, or extractor hook get caked up with 22 grime.

    I've fed it winchesters xxx, federals, remys, sub-sonic, the 333 stuff... wally stuff, CCI... hell I even have it properly extract CB shorts (though it won't feed for obvious reasons).

    I truly believe this is the way this conversion should have came, and it probably wouldn't have as bad of a rep if the mag lips were just a bit shorter.

    So try it out! I can dump a full mag with ease and no hiccups now!
  • #2
    VictorFranko
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2010
    • 13737

    Thanks for the report.
    What the heck, I'll give one mag a try, what's the most I can lose, $25?

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    • #3
      97F1504RAD
      Calguns Addict
      • Dec 2008
      • 6316

      Nice writeup with a nice simple solution.

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      • #4
        ROTC sniper
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 686

        Tag. Thx
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        • #5
          IPSICK
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 4259

          Wish you had this 5 years ago when I had my conversion kit. I had the same issues as you but decided to sell instead of modify. This sounds like a service you could offer for those of us less capable with a Dremel.
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          • #6
            97F1504RAD
            Calguns Addict
            • Dec 2008
            • 6316

            Originally posted by IPSICK
            Wish you had this 5 years ago when I had my conversion kit. I had the same issues as you but decided to sell instead of modify. This sounds like a service you could offer for those of us less capable with a Dremel.
            You could also use a hand file. Less chance of removing to much or screwing things up if done manually with a file.

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            • #7
              sootytom
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 761

              Well I did a little dremiling on 2 of my A.A. mags rounding the front corners of the mag.I'm heading to the range in the morning we'll see if it helps the fte's w/ the A.A.
              I normally shoot 300+ rounds with the .22 doing my FRONT SIGHT drills than I switch to my 9mm slide and shoot 100+ rounds finishing up my drills
              I'll let you all know if there's any change

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              • #8
                Grumpyoldretiredcop
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2008
                • 6437

                Watching this with interest. Don't particularly have any problems with Remington GB, but it's always nice to have a choice.
                I'm retired. That's right, retired. I don't want to hear about the cop who stopped you today or how you didn't think you should get a ticket. That just makes me grumpy!

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                • #9
                  sootytom
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 761

                  well I'm back from the range I shot 300+ rounds rem gb 36 gn bulk pac, I used 2 modified mags and 2 stock mags I marked the modified mags, I mixed the mags ups and did my normal shooting drills. the results are 1 fte with modified mags,8 fte with stock mags INTERESTING the 1 fte with modified mag was after shooting 200+ rnds and things were getting dirty.
                  I'll be going to the range on mon.again, I'll report back how it goes. I tried shooting fed. 36 gn bulk pac with no luck, will not eject 100% the owners manual says it will not shoot with fed. but I thought I'd give it a try

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                  • #10
                    AdiosKali
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 1235

                    I have a kit coming for my G20. AA should do this from the git go!

                    I have a case of blazer. Would be nice to use this instead of the Remington stuff.

                    Are you guys leaving the sights on it came with? I would like the same sight picture that my G20 has.
                    Looking to acquire a Marlin 336 Texan. Hit me up if you are contemplating getting rid of one.

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                    • #11
                      ummagawd
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 73

                      Sootytom, might want to try removing just a bit more material. When I first experimented, I noticed 2 of my mags that I dremeled refused the federals. I went home to compare how much material I removed and sure enough i hadn't removed as much as my other 3 that were running 100%.

                      I should note that this is on the AA -19/23 kit. I don't have my g35 yet so I've yet to try this on the 17/34/35 kit.

                      But my g19 with my modified AA mags run like a top! And if I wasn't selling my g19 and AA kit... I'd totally take video of me dumping a mag of federals.

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                      • #12
                        B-263-54
                        Member
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 144

                        Great writeup and thanks for the pictures. I'll have to give this a try. I wonder why the factory hasn't figured this out/modified their mags?

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                        • #13
                          ummagawd
                          Junior Member
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 73

                          Also worth noting that you should make sure there's no oil/dirt on the extractor hook. I remember mine starting to hate federals after that started getting dirty/slippery.

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                          • #14
                            sootytom
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 761

                            I went to the range again today I shot 240 rounds 50% thru 2 modified mags and 50% thru 2 stock mags mixing the mags up thru out my drills. today I had 0 malf. with modified mags and 4 malf. thru stock mags
                            I tried grinding a little more off of 1 of the modified mags and it still didn't like the fed bulk ammo which is ok with me because it's shooting the CHEAP rem gb so well
                            I'm going to try my test a few more time in the next week and if I continue to get the same results I'll be modifing all my advan. arms mags for both of my kits

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                            • #15
                              Enter_the_Dragon
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 1356

                              Gotta try this out. Thanks for sharing.
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