who makes a accurate quality 22 bolt action

[Excelsior]

Most consider CZ to be of higher quality and accuracy in general than Savage Arms. CZ are also notorious for getting very good results with low price ammo which is a bonus.

Naw. Savage 22's measure up very well with similarly priced CZs. In terms of pure accuracy I suspect a sub-$200.00 Savage would compete head-on with CZs costing twice as much.

[Kryptyde]

Naw. Savage 22's measure up very well with similarly priced CZs. In terms of pure accuracy I suspect a sub-$200.00 Savage would compete head-on with CZs costing twice as much.

Not according to the real experts over on rfc that have personally owned or tested all of these guns and can provide an unbiased opinion.

[wu_dot_com]

Not according to the real experts over on rfc that have personally owned or tested all of these guns and can provide an unbiased opinion.

by the same token, RFC expert also agreed that vostok CM2 will out shoot both CZ and savage while being cheaper. vostok can shoot just as well as those Annis from bench.

plus the trigger on those older CM2 can be adjusted all the way down to a few oz, while most sub 1k guns only allows you to adjust down to lbs.

for $280 neither savage or CZ can beat this package. this is as long as you can get over the ugliness of the gun.

[Timberwolf]

I don't know about the what the "real experts" at RFC say but I do know what I've seen at the 22 matches that I hosted over the past three years and that is that the varmint versions of the Savage Mark II are one o the most accurate out of he box 22 rifles I've ever seen for their price, hands down. I would even venture to say that they are bullet splitting accurate and I have quite a few witnesses on that.

[rojocorsa]

Savage Mark II BRJ. Under $375.00 and it will easily out-shoot a CZ 452 -- not massaging needed...

Then again, that one looks like its purpose built for target shooting. Same thing with that Soviet CM-2. It's a purpose built target rifle.

My gun OTOH, is more of a field gun...(as are the Varmint and the American.)




I guess the only real way is to go on a head to head competition, right?



One detail I like about my 452 Trainer is its Mauser-esque likeness. So much so that I refer to it as "Little Brother of Mauser."

[wu_dot_com]

Then again, that one looks like its purpose built for target shooting. Same thing with that Soviet CM-2. It's a purpose built target rifle.

My gun OTOH, is more of a field gun...(as are the Varmint and the American.)




I guess the only real way is to go on a head to head competition, right?



One detail I like about my 452 Trainer is its Mauser-esque likeness. So much so that I refer to it as "Little Brother of Mauser."

by all means, if OP is intended to shoot small games out to 100 yds. the 452 trainer or the 452 FS will be a solid choice.

but if he want to be "very accurate" i.e. target shooting, than those target rifles are better choice.

[kojak5150]

My Vote

I have one of these and love it.

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/MARKIIBTVS

[bombadillo]

I'm a savage fan. I really like the small bore savage rifles. They are made top notch, have dependable accurate barrels, and their triggers are almost unbeatable from the box if you get an accutrigger.

[rojocorsa]

by all means, if OP is intended to shoot small games out to 100 yds. the 452 trainer or the 452 FS will be a solid choice.

but if he want to be "very accurate" i.e. target shooting, than those target rifles are better choice.

I agree 100%. Though OP was very broad, and I think that's how the rest of the thread developed.

I would like to shoot a 100 yards or more. The rifle should have a light trigger and cost under 800 dollars. Thanks for the info.

He did not specify whether he wanted a target or a field gun, you know?

I just wanted to point out that Mk.2 pictured above was not in the same league because it was target specific given its features.


I guess the bottom line is that OP could not go wrong with both.

[bombadillo]

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_62/products_id/411540387

A bit flashy, but nuts accurate!

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_62/products_id/43580

This is what I would go with given I needed ANOTHER .22!!!

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_62/products_id/60986

And the tactical in a McMillan style target stock. I like all three for different reasons.

All have the accutrigger which is adjustable down to sub 3 lbs, and is going to break very clean!

[IPSICK]

These are all making want to shoot my Mark II FVT during my lunch break.

Btw, I don't think you can go wrong with either the CZ452 or the Savage Mark II. I just prefer the Mark II because it has an Accutrigger like my hunting rifle.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...s_id/411540387



A bit flashy, but nuts accurate!

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_62/products_id/43580

This is what I would go with given I needed ANOTHER .22!!!

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/36_62/products_id/60986

And the tactical in a McMillan style target stock. I like all three for different reasons.

All have the accutrigger which is adjustable down to sub 3 lbs, and is going to break very clean!

[nakoomba]

Only problem with a savage is the quality control. In the 22 matches we used to have at apts there is always someone with a savage in every match having some kind of problem with the bolt getting stuck, firing ping not working, magazine not dropping etc.

I wouldn't trust it in any kind of tournament environment.

[bombadillo]

Only problem with a savage is the quality control. In the 22 matches we used to have at apts there is always someone with a savage in every match having some kind of problem with the bolt getting stuck, firing ping not working, magazine not dropping etc.

I wouldn't trust it in any kind of tournament environment.

I'm surprised you say that. I've seen quite a few of them and they've all run flawless around here. I may chalk that up to user error of some sort but you never know...

[Excelsior]

Not according to the real experts over on rfc that have personally owned or tested all of these guns and can provide an unbiased opinion.

Yeah? You have information where shooters owned both Savages and CZs and prepared reports that the CZs out-shot the Savages? Let's see them.

Quite a few seem to be in love with the CZ -- largely because of cost at first, although they are no longer cheap. Those who write about CZs usually wouldn't even consider a Savage because they lack the CZs largely pseudo panache.

[Excelsior]

I'm surprised you say that. I've seen quite a few of them and they've all run flawless around here. I may chalk that up to user error of some sort but you never know...

Same here. Nothing wrong with the quality of Savage rifles. If anything they're like bomb-proof simple weapons...