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  • N_S
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 748

    10/22 nearly fell apart.

    I was shooting up at Sunnyvale Rod and Gun with my buddy (if you spotted a loud idiot with an orange and white sweatshirt, that was me). When we went over to shoot in the rimfire section I got the Ruger out of its case and the first thing I noticed was that the front sight post didn't appear to be on perfectly straight. It looked canted to the right just a little. Some closer looks indicated that as far as I could tell it was on properly. We proceeded to throw a couple hundred rounds of really poor quality Remington plinking ammo downrange. After a few switch-offs I noticed three things. One of the unused rail screws on the top of the receiver came almost all the way out. More importantly the gun started feeling really loose, like it wasn't attached to the stock. More importantly still we developed a visible gap between the barrel and the receiver.
    With the help of some other shooters who had the right hex wrenches we discovered the problem. Either the gun was already loose for whatever reason or it managed to shake itself loose. The stock retainer screw was halfway out, the barrel nuts were loose and the barrel was able to rotate about 10 degrees in either direction. It's not too big of a deal since the gun continued shooting reliably and we were able to fix it by just re-tightening everything but now I'm concerned because I have a gun that can shoot itself loose or just somehow magically gets loose from sitting around. Is this normal?

    Also the gun was producing strange little puffs of smoke every time you closed the bolt. But I imagine that's just the lousy ammo.
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    jshoebot
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 1857

    Clean your gun. Apply loctite to the barrel nuts. Tighten down the stock retaining screw.
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    • #3
      stitchnicklas
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2010
      • 7091

      proper maintenance is a must

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      • #4
        tonelar
        Dinosaur
        • Mar 2008
        • 6081

        Has it been riding in your car a lot?
        Sounds like what happens to trunk guns.
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        • #5
          jshoebot
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 1857

          Originally posted by tonelar
          Sounds like what happens to trunk guns.
          Really? I've never heard of that happening with trunk guns. I usually switch mine out every few months or so, so I've never had a problem.
          Any opinions expressed in my posts are not necessarily the opinions of any organizations in which I am a member.

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          • #6
            rimfireman
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 52

            Originally posted by jshoebot
            Clean your gun. Apply loctite to the barrel nuts. Tighten down the stock retaining screw.
            do not apply any glue in the barrel channel area of the receiver as a side note*
            -


            stop and clean rifle.

            buy a new v-block if its needed (stainless steel ones are pretty good)

            reinstall barrel make sure that the bolt lines up with the extractor notch on the barrel.

            screw in v-block and apply about 8 to 10 pounds of tension to retain the barrel.

            (loctite rail screws)

            /cheers
            A brahmin once asked The Blessed One:
            "Are you a God?"
            "No, brahmin" said The Blessed One.
            "Are you a saint?"
            "No, brahmin" said The Blessed One.
            "Are you a magician?"
            "No, brahmin" said The Blessed One.
            "What are you then?"
            "I am awake."

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            • #7
              tonelar
              Dinosaur
              • Mar 2008
              • 6081

              Originally posted by jshoebot
              Really? I've never heard of that happening with trunk guns. I usually switch mine out every few months or so, so I've never had a problem.
              Never happens if you check (or loctite) your screws once in a while. Or dampen vibrations (like with a padded case).
              Last edited by tonelar; 04-27-2011, 1:26 AM.
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              • #8
                N_S
                Senior Member
                • May 2008
                • 748

                Originally posted by tonelar
                Has it been riding in your car a lot?
                Sounds like what happens to trunk guns.
                See that's the strange thing. It was in a car on the way there but until then it was just sitting in a closet.

                Either way I think the key is to just check and re-check the screws every time I go shooting.

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                • #9
                  Kryptyde
                  Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 109

                  I'm a little shocked that you would fire any firearm that appears to be broken/damaged/falling apart.

                  Maintaining equipment properly and inspecting prior to use is a critical part of firearms safety.

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                  • #10
                    -hanko
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 14174

                    Originally posted by N_S
                    When we went over to shoot in the rimfire section I got the Ruger out of its case and the first thing I noticed was that the front sight post didn't appear to be on perfectly straight. It looked canted to the right just a little. Some closer looks indicated that as far as I could tell it was on properly. We proceeded to throw a couple hundred rounds of really poor quality Remington plinking ammo downrange. After a few switch-offs I noticed three things. One of the unused rail screws on the top of the receiver came almost all the way out. More importantly the gun started feeling really loose, like it wasn't attached to the stock. More importantly still we developed a visible gap between the barrel and the receiver.

                    With the help of some other shooters who had the right hex wrenches we discovered the problem. Either the gun was already loose for whatever reason or it managed to shake itself loose. The stock retainer screw was halfway out, the barrel nuts were loose and the barrel was able to rotate about 10 degrees in either direction. It's not too big of a deal since the gun continued shooting reliably and we were able to fix it by just re-tightening everything but now I'm concerned because I have a gun that can shoot itself loose or just somehow magically gets loose from sitting around. Is this normal?
                    The goofy front sight post suggested you should have checked the gun before you shot it.

                    -hanko
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                    • #11
                      N_S
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 748

                      Originally posted by -hanko
                      The goofy front sight post suggested you should have checked the gun before you shot it.

                      -hanko
                      I probably didn't adequately explain that. The front sight post looked very slightly off-kilter but on closer examination it appeared to be fine. Bigger problems like the gap between the barrel and the receiver started to manifest themselves only after a few hundred rounds and it was at that point that we stopped to assess the situation.

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                      • #12
                        Caseless
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 1668

                        Use blue Loctite on the screw threads if they keep coming loose.

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                        • #13
                          Quickdraw Mcgraw
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 711

                          Originally posted by rimfireman
                          do not apply any glue in the barrel channel area of the receiver as a side note*
                          -


                          stop and clean rifle.

                          buy a new v-block if its needed (stainless steel ones are pretty good)

                          reinstall barrel make sure that the bolt lines up with the extractor notch on the barrel.

                          screw in v-block and apply about 8 to 10 pounds of tension to retain the barrel.

                          (loctite rail screws)

                          /cheers

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                          • #14
                            SGGear
                            Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 395

                            Originally posted by Kryptyde
                            I'm a little shocked that you would fire any firearm that appears to be broken/damaged/falling apart.

                            Maintaining equipment properly and inspecting prior to use is a critical part of firearms safety.
                            ^^^
                            "Blaming guns for murder is like blaming spoons for fat people"

                            ..

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                            • #15
                              Barabas
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 3370

                              I was going to post about how Marlins never have this problem, but then I changed my mind.

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