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  • map
    Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 427

    magazine capacity

    Hi everyone. What is the maximum magazine capacity for .22lr rifles? Is it also 10? Someone from a gun store in orange county told me that for .22lr the max is 30. not sure is this is true or not. Thanks.
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    gunafficionado
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 551

    Originally posted by map
    Hi everyone. What is the maximum magazine capacity for .22lr rifles? Is it also 10? Someone from a gun store in orange county told me that for .22lr the max is 30. not sure is this is true or not. Thanks.

    detachable magazines - 10rd limit
    tube magazaines - no limit

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    • #3
      map
      Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 427

      good info. thanks!

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      • #4
        Quiet
        retired Goon
        • Mar 2007
        • 30242

        There is no rimfire exemption to the CA large capacity magazine laws.

        There is an exemption for .22 calibered tubular magazines [PC 12020(c)(25)(B)].



        Penal Code 12020
        (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
        (2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
        (c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
        (A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
        (B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
        (C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
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        • #5
          JaMail
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 1897

          what gun store clerk told you 30? if its pre ban you can have it, post ban you cant, new you can buy tube fed with no limit.

          alot of people still have 25 and 30 round pre ban mag's for 10/22
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          • #6
            the big ravioli
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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            • Jan 2009
            • 1167

            That gun shop employee needs to be brought up to speed or be fired... Hope he doesnt own the shop, there will be alot more missled customers for sure.
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            • #7
              bohoki
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 20821

              there is no limit

              but stores only seem to be allowed to sell 10 round magazines
              but further exploration of the law with a fine tooth comb seems to be verboden

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              • #8
                mcat707
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 2346

                It amazes me on how so much FUD comes from local gunshops. Its scary to think how many newbies believe what they hear at these gunshops without researching the correct info on their own.

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                • #9
                  map
                  Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 427

                  Jamail - thanks for the info. I am always skeptical about the argument that the high cap mags are prebanned. Of the leo runs the dros and the firearm was purchased after the ban, then it would lead to the conclusion that the mags were not purchased prebanned.

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                  • #10
                    Ron-Solo
                    In Memoriam
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 8581

                    Originally posted by map
                    Jamail - thanks for the info. I am always skeptical about the argument that the high cap mags are prebanned. Of the leo runs the dros and the firearm was purchased after the ban, then it would lead to the conclusion that the mags were not purchased prebanned.
                    No confusion. We don't run DROS on magazines, and there is no DROS record on longuns. It would be up to us to prove you got the magazine after the ban, and the violation would be on the person who sold it to you or imported it into the state. Even if the magazine were 'preban' hi-caps, it is illegal to transfer them between individuals. I have many hi-cap magazines, but I can't give or sell them to anyone who isn't LE or otherwise exempt.
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                    • #11
                      bczrx
                      Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 385

                      Originally posted by Quiet
                      There is no rimfire exemption to the CA large capacity magazine laws.

                      There is an exemption for .22 calibered tubular magazines [PC 12020(c)(25)(B)].



                      Penal Code 12020
                      (c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
                      (A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
                      (B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
                      (C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
                      I think I'm fine, as the gun is OLD, but I was reading the last parts of your post above and found two areas of concern: sections B and C.

                      B I understand to be those 'speedloaders' that hold 6 tubes worth of 15 rounds. like found at the following website: http://www.spee-d-loader.net/Loaders.html That is all that I can think of that would be a ".22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device".

                      C specifically states for a lever action firearm. Whew. My Marlin 39A is safe.

                      HOWEVER, what about my Glenfield [really, it's a Marlin] model 60 semi-auto tube-fed .22lr?


                      I hope it is safe.

                      Hmmm. I haven't noticed the Marlin Model 60 for sale in California, now that I think of it. I always assumed it was because of the popularity of the Ruger 10/22.
                      Last edited by bczrx; 02-17-2011, 9:14 AM.
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                      • #12
                        Izzy43
                        CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 2670

                        Originally posted by bczrx
                        I think I'm fine, as the gun is OLD, but I was reading the last parts of your post above and found two areas of concern: sections B and C.

                        B I understand to be those 'speedloaders' that hold 6 tubes worth of 15 rounds. like found at the following website: http://www.spee-d-loader.net/Loaders.html That is all that I can think of that would be a ".22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device".

                        C specifically states for a lever action firearm. Whew. My Marlin 39A is safe.

                        HOWEVER, what about my Glenfield [really, it's a Marlin] model 60 semi-auto tube-fed .22lr?


                        I hope it is safe.

                        Hmmm. I haven't noticed the Marlin Model 60 for sale in California, now that I think of it. I always assumed it was because of the popularity of the Ruger 10/22.
                        Marlin 60s can be purchased and are legal in California. I own one as do many others on this forum.

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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by bczrx
                          I think I'm fine, as the gun is OLD, but I was reading the last parts of your post above and found two areas of concern: sections B and C.

                          B I understand to be those 'speedloaders' that hold 6 tubes worth of 15 rounds. like found at the following website: http://www.spee-d-loader.net/Loaders.html That is all that I can think of that would be a ".22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device".

                          C specifically states for a lever action firearm. Whew. My Marlin 39A is safe.

                          HOWEVER, what about my Glenfield [really, it's a Marlin] model 60 semi-auto tube-fed .22lr?


                          I hope it is safe.

                          Hmmm. I haven't noticed the Marlin Model 60 for sale in California, now that I think of it. I always assumed it was because of the popularity of the Ruger 10/22.
                          PC 12020(c)(25)(B) = .22 calibered tubular magazine fixed to a firearm.
                          Glenfield/Marlin Model 60 is exempt under this.

                          PC 12020(c)(25)(C) = any calibered tubular magazine fixed to a lever-action firearm.
                          Marlin Model 39A is exempt under this.
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                          • #14
                            Dion
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 818

                            Speaking of dumb gun shop workers... when I purchased my last gun I asked the girl if they offer discounts for NRA members and she's asks, "What's NRA?"
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                            • #15
                              bczrx
                              Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 385

                              Originally posted by Quiet
                              PC 12020(c)(25)(B) = .22 calibered tubular magazine fixed to a firearm.
                              Glenfield/Marlin Model 60 is exempt under this.

                              PC 12020(c)(25)(C) = any calibered tubular magazine fixed to a lever-action firearm.
                              Marlin Model 39A is exempt under this.

                              Thank you. Those were the ones I was puzzling over.
                              Where did all the range-time go?

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