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  • salazar44
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 832

    Tube Fed magazine

    I just got my hands on a free bolt action Western Field Model 31. It looks like it could be a fun little plinker.

    I noticed that the previous owner had some beat up tape around the barrel and tube magazine. After taking it apart for a thorough cleaning, I noticed that the magazine tensioner screw was missing.

    I have NO experience with tube magazines and no matter how I try to adjust/place the tube I cannot get it to cycle properly. Can somebody provide a pic of what it looks like from their tube magazine? I also would like some animation of what is going on in a tube fed magazine when a round is cycled

    Thanks guys!
  • #2
    salazar44
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 832

    nobody in the calguns world can snap a pic of the underside for me?

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    • #3
      Dorkhedeos
      Member
      • May 2009
      • 253

      You should probably post a picture of your magazine first. If I showed you a picture of my tube magazine, I dont think it would help much.

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      • #4
        salazar44
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 832

        Originally posted by Dorkhedeos
        You should probably post a picture of your magazine first. If I showed you a picture of my tube magazine, I dont think it would help much.
        Here you go. So when I took everything apart I did not the location of how it was. There was also tape holding it in place.

        Top View



        Side View

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        • #5
          salazar44
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 832

          Could anyone tell me the purpose of the screw located between the 'mag well' and the trigger? Also, what is the notch for on the tube?

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          • #6
            pilote
            Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 207

            are you sure it's a 31 and not 31A...if it's a 31 it's a mossberg R, and parts are hard to find for that exact model...either way you need to get the mag mounts and screws for it or it will never cycle properly...

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            • #7
              salazar44
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 832

              yes its a model 31. I have the mag mounts just not the screw. if i new what type of screw it needs then maybe I can get it somewhere.

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              • #8
                jackandblood
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1125

                just curious. was it a gift?
                Dont go against the grain if you cant handle it - Wu Tang

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                • #9
                  salazar44
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 832

                  Originally posted by jackandblood
                  just curious. was it a gift?
                  yes it was a gift. it looks to be pretty darn old and could possibly be a good little shooter.

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                  • #10
                    pilote
                    Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 207

                    Originally posted by salazar44
                    yes its a model 31. I have the mag mounts just not the screw. if i new what type of screw it needs then maybe I can get it somewhere.


                    the 31 should have the same tube assembly as the 31A, which is the mossberg 40, and there are parts available for it at Numrich...

                    ...if you do get that tube problem squared away, it will be a good plinker; all the old mossbergs are hardy, well made rimfires...look how long that 31 has lasted...
                    Last edited by pilote; 01-17-2011, 11:42 AM.

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                    • #11
                      salazar44
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 832

                      Originally posted by pilote
                      http://www.box54.com/exploded-40-44.jpg

                      the 31 should have the same tube assembly as the 31A, which is the mossberg 40, and there are parts available for it at Numrich...

                      ...if you do get that tube problem squared away, it will be a good plinker; all the old mossbergs are hardy, well made rimfires...look how long that 31 has lasted...
                      Thanks. I am not quite sure how old it actually is. Any idea? the serial number on it says 186. Pretty crazy.

                      OH... and im not sure which screw it is that I actually need. is it the barrel screw or the tube tension spring screw.
                      I think the Barrel screw is the one visible in the picture.
                      Last edited by salazar44; 01-17-2011, 11:51 AM.

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                      • #12
                        salazar44
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 832

                        Hmm... Strange thing that the parts lists on Numrich looks like model 31 contains shotgun parts. This is definitely a 22LR. I just purchased the Tube Tension Spring, Tube Tension Spring Screw, and Barrel Screw from the parts list you provided. I sure hope the model 40 is the same

                        But I did see remnants of the Tube tension spring left on the gun when i cleaned. I thought it was some sort of washer since it was only piece of it.

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                        • #13
                          pilote
                          Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 207

                          Originally posted by salazar44
                          Hmm... Strange thing that the parts lists on Numrich looks like model 31 contains shotgun parts. This is definitely a 22LR. I just purchased the Tube Tension Spring, Tube Tension Spring Screw, and Barrel Screw from the parts list you provided. I sure hope the model 40 is the same

                          But I did see remnants of the Tube tension spring left on the gun when i cleaned. I thought it was some sort of washer since it was only piece of it.
                          i know my cross reference to the ward westernfield-mossberg is right...

                          the ward westernfield 31 is a mossberg K, made 1930-33...the 31A followed it, which was the mossberg 40...the guts should/look to be the same, just the sights are different...

                          don't shoot me if it isn't...ain't no parts for a K anymore...

                          you get that old guy shooting ok you should consider refinishing the stock with a tru oil finish...it's not hard, just takes time...way cooler then owning a tacticalcool...
                          Last edited by pilote; 01-17-2011, 1:48 PM.

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                          • #14
                            salazar44
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 832

                            ehh... if the parts dont fit then its ok. it was only 20 bucks invested. maybe they will let me return them.

                            So this rifle was manu'd somewhere between 1930-1933? with a serial of #186 I would think it was made in 1930 huh.

                            As for restoring the stock I will do that. I have already done my AK and SKS with tru oil. Comes out really nice!

                            Thanks for your help!

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                            • #15
                              salazar44
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 832

                              I forgot to ask again... is it possible for somebody to put up a pic of what their magazine looks like near the receiver opening. Not sure if they will look similar to mine but your pic could help me understand the concept. Thanks!

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