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  • wc12
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 273

    Cieners 1911 22lr conversion kit

    Bought this one (for my springfield 1911 a1) and had to return it because the hammer was stoppig the slide from going all the way back. Didn't get to shoot it because of this issue. The slide will come back only when I pulled the hammer back. Did anyone else have this issue or was this just a bad unit that I got?
    Damn democrats are turning me into a republican.
  • #2
    jrara
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1728

    Where did you buy it? Midway?

    Also If I recall right, according to the manual of the Springfield they don't recommend .22lr Kits.

    Excerpt from the manual

    "The firing pin on some commercial .22 conversion kits protrudes back too far causing the hammer to hit the firing pin when the hammer is in the Safety Stop position. When this occurs the gun could fire and is a potentially dangerous situation. .22 conversion kits with this condition are dangerous and could cause serious injuries. For your safety and the safety of others, these .22 conversion kits should not be used on any Springfield
    1911 model pistol."


    This is why I went with the Rock Island instead.
    Current Armory:
    HK p7m8
    Dan Wesson Guardian 9mm
    Hi-Power Practical
    Baby Eagle 9mm
    P99 AS
    Glock 43

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    • #3
      MongooseV8
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 4426

      What conversion did you go with? I plan on using a RIA frame too.


      OP I have read about this problem. If you plan on retrying the same kit or choosing a new one, I suggest doing a search here in the rimfire section and also on rimfirecentral.

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      • #4
        wc12
        Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 273

        Thanks. I went for the cieners standard since I have the GI model. I'm probably not gonna try for safety purposes. I should've went for the RIA.
        Damn democrats are turning me into a republican.

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        • #5
          MongooseV8
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 4426

          You have a GI Springfield? I know there are a ton of people running a SA frame with conversions despite the warning in the manual. Well you can always sell the SA for enough to get a RIA to convert. Or better yet you can keep the SA a 45, and buy an RIA to have a dedicated 22 conversion

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          • #6
            Chief-7700
            Veteran Member
            • May 2008
            • 3382

            Good luck with JA Cieners customer service they are the worst. I'm on the waiting list for a Bob Marvel Custom Pro II conversion unit.
            Last edited by Chief-7700; 11-25-2010, 10:16 AM.

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            • #7
              jrara
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 1728

              Originally posted by MongooseV8
              What conversion did you go with? I plan on using a RIA frame too.


              OP I have read about this problem. If you plan on retrying the same kit or choosing a new one, I suggest doing a search here in the rimfire section and also on rimfirecentral.
              Will be picking up my RIA on Wednesday.

              I'll try to borrow my buddy's Kimber kit and see how it work.s
              Current Armory:
              HK p7m8
              Dan Wesson Guardian 9mm
              Hi-Power Practical
              Baby Eagle 9mm
              P99 AS
              Glock 43

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              • #8
                MongooseV8
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 4426

                Ooh thats exciting. Its no fun waiting to pick up your new gun

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                • #9
                  jrara
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 1728

                  Originally posted by MongooseV8
                  Ooh thats exciting. Its no fun waiting to pick up your new gun

                  Did you want me to post the results?
                  Current Armory:
                  HK p7m8
                  Dan Wesson Guardian 9mm
                  Hi-Power Practical
                  Baby Eagle 9mm
                  P99 AS
                  Glock 43

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                  • #10
                    MongooseV8
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 4426

                    Oh yes please! Im going back and forth between a Kimber and a Marvel conversion. Im sure there are others here that would love to read your review as well.

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                    • #11
                      wellfedirishman
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 2272

                      I have a Ciener 22 Conversion kit and it works great on both my Colt 1911 and my RIA Tactical 1911.

                      From the comments above, this sounds like a problem with the Springfield pistol, not with the Ciener products.

                      Buy the Ciener kit through Midway USA so you get excellent customer service.

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                      • #12
                        rdubya
                        Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 145

                        I've been shooting my Kimber conversion on both of my SA's, a Pro and a 1911-A1. The only problem I have had is when the Kimber gets dirty I will have FTE issues. Both SA have had extensive (expensive) trigger work done which may help. I am thinking of getting a RRA for a dedicated 22 and put the SA back together.

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                        • #13
                          DeLaSeoulRZN
                          Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 417

                          i had a kimber on a TRP and Pro and didn't have any issues with the slide...the issues i had were mainly due to the poly mags.

                          I switched to the Tactical Solutions conversion kit and had the same issue that was described here where it appeared the the hammer was interfering with the top slide from going all the way back. I don't know if it's the same situation but after calling Tactical Solutions, they found with some 1911's, you had to sand down this numb in back of the notch behind the guide rod (the area where the slide stop goes) as it was impacting the back of pistol. Might be worth looking into.

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                          • #14
                            Ricky-Ray
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 3161

                            I have a Kimber conversion kit for my SA GI Mil spec and never had any issues with it.
                            Ray

                            "If you lead your life the right way, the karma will take care of itself. The dreams will come to you." - Randy Paush, Carnegie Mellon University

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                            • #15
                              habendanio
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 45

                              I have a kimber 22lr conversion kit on a kimber custom II. Works reliable and have had no issues in the couple k rounds through it. In the manual for the kit it mentions needing a high velocity round to cycle correctly. CCI stingers work great, would suggest whatever kit you use, it needs enough bang to cycle the slide properly.

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