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  • wingman01
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 101

    Rimfire more then 10 rounds?

    I've been searching without success
    Since 22LR is a rimfire and doesn't fall under CA assault weapon category are you allowed more than 10 rounds in a detachable magazine?
    I'm sure others has looked into this. Please chime before I stock up on some Mags
  • #2
    bballwizard05
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3323

    No, unless you owned the magazine before 2000, the only possible way to have more than 10 rounds in a 22 (or anything for that matter) after the year 2000 is in a tube fed .22 rifle. AFAIK

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    • #3
      MrPlink
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Mar 2010
      • 12532

      Originally posted by bballwizard05
      No, unless you owned the magazine before 2000, the only possible way to have more than 10 rounds in a 22 (or anything for that matter) after the year 2000 is in a tube fed .22 rifle. AFAIK
      fud

      how you got your mags has nothing to do with the fact that you can use whatever capacity mag in a rimfire you want PERIOD. Round limits only apply to semi auto centerfire mags with evil AW features.

      As far as the mag thing, Im almost sick of explaining it on this forum. The centerfire guys seem to have it down, for some reason everytime it comes up here there seems to be nothing but speculation and more FUD.

      Im sure people will refute what Im about to say (despite not having any evidence) and beyond that, I am not your lawyer etc etc etc etc


      post 2000
      you cannot import, manufacture, sell, or transfer (give) mags over 10 rounds without being LEO or having the proper permsion.

      please note some related fun FACTS:


      - posession and use of magazines greater than 10 rounds is not a crime, no matter how you obtained the mag (exception being mag locked semi auto centerfire rifles)

      - it is NOT illegal to find mags over 10rds nor is it illegal to buy them (yes, I said BUY please show me a penal code where it says you cant do this before you say this is incorrect)

      - statute of limitations of illegaly importation, manufacture, transfer etc etc etc of hi cap mags is 3 years

      keep in mind, laws do not tell you what you CAN do, only what you cant. If the law does not make it implicitly illegal, then it is IS legal.
      The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

      disclaimer:
      everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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      • #4
        bballwizard05
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 3323

        Originally posted by MrPlink
        fud

        how you got your mags has nothing to do with the fact that you can use whatever capacity mag in a rimfire you want PERIOD. Round limits only apply to semi auto centerfire mags with evil AW features.

        As far as the mag thing, Im almost sick of explaining it on this forum. The centerfire guys seem to have it down, for some reason everytime it comes up here there seems to be nothing but speculation and more FUD.

        Im sure people will refute what Im about to say (despite not having any evidence) and beyond that, I am not your lawyer etc etc etc etc


        post 2000
        you cannot import, manufacture, sell, or transfer (give) mags over 10 rounds without being LEO or having the proper permsion.

        please note some related fun FACTS:


        - posession and use of magazines greater than 10 rounds is not a crime, no matter how you obtained the mag (exception being mag locked semi auto centerfire rifles) I never said it was

        - it is NOT illegal to find mags over 10rds nor is it illegal to buy them (yes, I said BUY please show me a penal code where it says you cant do this before you say this is incorrect) You can buy them, whoever you bought them from just commited a felony in this state, but if you find someone who doesn't care then more power to you

        - statute of limitations of illegaly importation, manufacture, transfer etc etc etc of hi cap mags is 3 years So just break the law, then lay low for 3 years then talk about it openly

        keep in mind, laws do not tell you what you CAN do, only what you cant. If the law does not make it implicitly illegal, then it is IS legal.

        Look there are ways around the "written laws" and thats fine. I was clearing up in a simple fashion that TECHNICALLY hi-cap laws apply to .22 rifles as well as far as OBTAINING magazines legally and without another person breaking the law as well. And chill with the "I'm sick of explaining it" thing, if your "SO TIRED" of allllllllllll the ignorance you have to pile through on a daily basis then just stop replying. Nothing that I said was Fud, your response was all just loopholes WHICH ARE LEGAL, but loopholes non the less.

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        • #5
          wingman01
          Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 101

          Sorry, I found the old posts!
          Thanks for the replies though.
          It appears perhaps I can shoot all day long with High Cap mags in a 22lr.
          Finding a person to sell or give them to me legally might be the hard thing to do because it is illegal to import, manufacture, sell, or transfer (give) mags over 10 rounds

          And Probably asking for trouble if a LEO is having a bad day

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          • #6
            WhatsTCP
            Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 384

            unfortunately mr.plink, although what you say is true, it is still pushing the boundaries (that may be a bit of a exaggeration). Just because you technically can't be convicted for it, doesn't mean you won't get arrested for it and have to go through the legal hassle (which some seem to enjoy, but others rather not be troubled with it)

            thats why IN MY OPINION, which anybody is entitled to disagree with, it is not worth it and I'll just stick with my ten rounds mags or my model 60 if I want more capacity
            Originally posted by chuckdc
            Sounds like you can use your friend to activate your bullet button.. since he is definitely a tool.
            Originally posted by Vanilla gorilla
            It is ok you don't need friends you have calguns

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            • #7
              MrPlink
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2010
              • 12532

              ^ I'm not endorsing any illegal activity or bending of the laws at all. Unjust as the laws may be, playing with fire isn't worth it.

              I'm only stating the facts, and posted on calguns alone there are numerous cases of people finding (legally) hi cap mags.
              The California Moderate Centrist Militia member in exile

              disclaimer:
              everything I post is for arguendo and entertainment purposes only, and should not be construed to be legal advice

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              • #8
                MaHoTex
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2010
                • 5002

                Originally posted by MrPlink
                ^ I'm not endorsing any illegal activity or bending of the laws at all. Unjust as the laws may be, playing with fire isn't worth it.

                I'm only stating the facts, and posted on calguns alone there are numerous cases of people finding (legally) hi cap mags.
                And that is especially true of AR mags. For some reason people tend to think of those as a throw away items. I have found 3 of them in the garbage at the range: Two one day, and one another day a couple of months later. Unfortunately for me, at the time I had no AR and no intent to build an AR. Dang it... Now I am building two ARs and did not pick up the mags. Not sure if they were 10/30 or what. Point being is it does happen.
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                • #9
                  surfNshoot
                  CGSSA Rimfire Coordinator
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1444

                  Oh Man!!! Here we go again.

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                  • #10
                    SKSer
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1716

                    LOL, you guys are crazy, and im deffinately not inviting you to my ghetto party tonight, I got fridges stacked with 40's of "Old E" , and we are going to blast caps in the air all night.

                    you guys need a laugh, my wife just showed this to me this morning, check it out.

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                    • #11
                      c good
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2664

                      Over 10 round magazine is an over 10 round magazine. No difference in the law as far as rimfire or centerfire cartridge. Tube feed is not considered a magazine. So, let's design a tube fed, rimfire, .223!! c good

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                      • #12
                        G-forceJunkie
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 6385

                        That is not totally correct. Lets say I own 30 round AR mags and 30 round 10/22 mags that I bought in 1995. I can legally stick that 10/22 in any 10/22 ever made, including one I bought last month. The centerfire AR mags, I can stick them in my RAW and I can stick them in my featurless AR I built last month. I cannot stick them in my featured and Bullet Buttoned AR that I built last month. There is a difference in the use, depending on rimfire vs the various configurations on centerfires.
                        Originally posted by c good
                        Over 10 round magazine is an over 10 round magazine. No difference in the law as far as rimfire or centerfire cartridge. Tube feed is not considered a magazine. So, let's design a tube fed, rimfire, .223!! c good

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                        • #13
                          Quiet
                          retired Goon
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 30242

                          Originally posted by wingman01
                          I've been searching without success
                          Since 22LR is a rimfire and doesn't fall under CA assault weapon category are you allowed more than 10 rounds in a detachable magazine?
                          I'm sure others has looked into this. Please chime before I stock up on some Mags
                          The large capacity magazine laws have nothing to do with the assault weapons laws. They are independent of each other, even though some assault weapons laws stipulate a capacity limit on certain types of firearms (semi-auto centerfire rifles, semi-auto handguns and semi-auto shotguns).

                          Your answer is contained below in the PC.

                          Penal Code 12020
                          (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year or in the state prison:
                          (2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large-capacity magazine.
                          (c)(25) As used in this section, "large-capacity magazine" means any ammunition feeding device with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include any of the following:
                          (A) A feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
                          (B) A .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
                          (C) A tubular magazine that is contained in a lever-action firearm.
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                          • #14
                            c good
                            Veteran Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 2664

                            Originally posted by G-forceJunkie
                            That is not totally correct. Lets say I own 30 round AR mags and 30 round 10/22 mags that I bought in 1995. I can legally stick that 10/22 in any 10/22 ever made, including one I bought last month. The centerfire AR mags, I can stick them in my RAW and I can stick them in my featurless AR I built last month. I cannot stick them in my featured and Bullet Buttoned AR that I built last month. There is a difference in the use, depending on rimfire vs the various configurations on centerfires.
                            ?????? Your hypothetical situation has no correlation to the OP's question. Just because it's a rimfire does not exempt one from the over 10 round magazine restrictions instituted on January 1st, 2000. As "Quiet" mentioned in above post...."Large capacity magazine laws have nothing to with assault weapons laws." They are two completely different laws. c good

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