Scope & Bipod help

[Banpei]

Hey all, I'm buying my first gun in a bit to try my hand at varmint hunting. I've decided on the Savage 93R17 FV and I think I have it under control, but I have a few questions about scopes and bipods that I thought I'd try to ask here.

And yes this is my first gun, so these questions might be n00b-tacular.

Anyways, for my scope I want this Bushnell at 3.5-10x36mm. It says that it's "optimized for .17 and .22lr, but is that even necessary, or is it a gimmick? And do I need to buy these rings to mount it? Do the rings come with the base mount? The Savage manual says that they take Weaver rings, but until I actually get the gun in my hand, I can't fathom how it would actually attach to the rifle.

And for my bipod I can't figure out if I should get: This bipod, which mounts to the stock (I think), or this one, which mounts to the barrel. Is there an advantage of one over the other? I think the bipod should be mounted as close to the muzzle as possible to lessen vertical recoil, and will the Savage even take that Picatinny mount?

I'm planning on getting the Savage from Imbert & Smithers in Redwood City. The gun looks to go for around $250 online, but after all the transfer fees it might not be worth it...Hopefully it doesn't cost that much more there.

[Chief-7700]

Talk to the guys where your buying the rifle at.

[SoCal Bob]

The link for the scope was bad but the rings should work if the scope has 1" tubes. Optimized for .22lr, .22WMR and .17HMR usually means that the parallax is set to 50 yards where a regular scope will be set to 100 yards. Parallax refers to the crosshairs moving on the target if you move your eye as you look through the scope, this could make the shot off target if your eye isn't centered right. Scopes can come fixed, 4x32, adjustable 3-9x32 or 3-9x32 AO. A scope marked AO has an adjustable objective which will adjust the parallax as you adjust the scope.

I have some of the Simmons .22 Mag series scopes and some basic NCStar rings and they work just fine for me. Good luck.


Sorry, but I don't have a bipod so I can't be of any help there.


I tried to give thr Readers Digest version of scopes, someone please jump in if I didn't get something right.

[xibunkrlilkidsx]

Hey all, I'm buying my first gun in a bit to try my hand at varmint hunting. I've decided on the Savage 93R17 FV and I think I have it under control, but I have a few questions about scopes and bipods that I thought I'd try to ask here.

And yes this is my first gun, so these questions might be n00b-tacular.

Anyways, for my scope I want this Bushnell at 3.5-10x36mm. It says that it's "optimized for .17 and .22lr, but is that even necessary, or is it a gimmick? And do I need to buy these rings to mount it? Do the rings come with the base mount? The Savage manual says that they take Weaver rings, but until I actually get the gun in my hand, I can't fathom how it would actually attach to the rifle.IM assuming your talking about the scope with the ranging built in for 17hmr. To me it is a gimick and may not be as accurate. Your best bet is to just get a good scope with 1/4 or 1/8moa adjustments. Rings will depend on what type of base is on the reciever.(weaver, Dove Tail, Picintanny and yadda) Best answer to this is ask the guys at the shop your buying from.

And for my bipod I can't figure out if I should get: This bipod, which mounts to the stock (I think), or this one, which mounts to the barrel. Is there an advantage of one over the other? I think the bipod should be mounted as close to the muzzle as possible to lessen vertical recoil, and will the Savage even take that Picatinny mount?
Harris Bipod are the gold standard. at worst shooters ridge. get a good bipod they will be a lot more stable.

I'm planning on getting the Savage from Imbert & Smithers in Redwood City. The gun looks to go for around $250 online, but after all the transfer fees it might not be worth it...Hopefully it doesn't cost that much more there.

see bold.

[rero360]

Those bipods look like they are meant for airsofters, I'd stay away from any bipod that attaches to the barrel, it will affect the accuracy in a very very bad way, it will make you hate shooting. Also unless the rifle has a 1913 rail on the bottom front of the stock (which that rifle does not) you will not be able to mount that other bipod either.

If cost is a concern and you don't want to shell out 70 ish bucks for a Harris, then take a look at the ones that Bass Pro and Cabelas carries, stoney point IIRC. those generally run for about half of the Harris.

The downside with the scope mounts being the way that they are is that they don't give you much in the way of flexability in adjusting eye relief. Me personally, I'd pick up a one piece base, in picatinny (1913) which will give you a much larger range of options, check out EGW and see if they have one for that rifle, they generally run about $40 or so, but there are other companies out there that are alittle cheaper. I don't know anything about the scope you are looking at, but please, for all that is holy in the gun world, do not buy NcStar rings or any other of their products. There are plenty of other options out there that will cost about the same and be of better quality, like the leupold riflemans and the redfields.

One thing to remember though when it comes to optics and their mounting equipment, if they are not durable and secure, the rifle will be pointing at a different spot after every shot in relation to the scope, which will make shooting accuratly impossible. That said, doesn't mean you have to go out and custom fit a Badger Ordnance base to the rifle, and use their rings to mount a nightforce or S&B on a rimfire for it to be any good.

Just be smart, do some research and don't buy bottom of the barrel stuff and you should enjoy the end result.

[G-forceJunkie]

You are going to want to get rings that put the scope as low as it can go on the barrel. That rifle comes with some pretty short scope bases already, but you will probaly need "low" weaver style rings for it. You never want to clip a bipod on the barrel, use a Harris bipod mounted on the sling swivel.

[Timberwolf]

As to scopes look at the Nikon Buckmaster 6-18X40 MD - plenty of the 22LR precision shooters, including myself, run with this little gem and love it. And at around 300.00 at Midway USA its a very good bang for your buck. Get rid of the scope mounts that the rifle comes with and get an EGW 20MOA rail and mount the scope in a gfood set of Weaver or Pictanny style rings and you'll be good to go out to about 300 yards.

As to a bipod you want the Harris swivel notched leg version in either the 6-9 or 9-13 (depending on stock configuration and how low you get in prone) size.

[dwh100]

These would be my choice:

http://www.parallaxtactical.com/store/hbrms-harris-bipod-6-to-9-with-notches-swivels-598.html

http://swfa.com/Mueller-APV-Riflescopes-C135.aspx

[Banpei]

Hmmm thanks for the responses everyone. I agree about not mounting the bipod to the barrel. It just sounds like something that could go south at some point. Anyways, I think I'm gonna go for the Bushnell Banner 4-12x40mm and worry about the bipod once the gun arrives. That "optimized for .17 hmr" thing does sound like a gimmick, and hopefully this scope will work fine on the rifle. Thanks again!

And I'd forgotten about how some of the stuff on Amazon might be cheap stuff for airsofters...Thanks for the reminder. I'll have to steer clear of it...

[Viper49]

Here you go Banpei
Good Scope for the 17HMR

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&brand=OS&prodID=OS17618X40AO&prodTitle=BSA%206-18x40%20AO%20Sweet%2017%20%20Riflescope

Bipod go with Harris 1A2L 9x3

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=HB1A2L