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  • DavidRSA
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1154

    .22 for learning "long range" techniques

    Recently bought a Remington 700 in .308 and the cost of match ammo is way too much for my taste. I was wondering if a .22LR rifle could be an option for learning precision shooting especially as it relates to using a scope..all the mildot range estimation dial turning calculations good stuff? Or is the range of a rimfire round too short to be a good learning option for all the scope stuff?
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    mattt
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1345

    I have a cz 453 22lr with a bushnell 24 power mill dot scope. I have a blast shooting at clays at 200 yards at united sportsmen members range. On a calm day I hit more then I miss ,but even alittle wind makes it a real challeng. I think it helps me with my shooting skills.

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    • #3
      The King
      Member
      • Jan 2010
      • 369

      Practice makes perfect. Learn muscle memory in your shooting positions: prone, sitting, kneeling, with your 22, and your 308 will follow.
      Be sure your 22 rifle has a similar stock to your 308. Try to match the height of the scope one to the other. Drop down into position and snap shoot.
      edit: Try matching Remington XP competition rifles in 308 and 22. Then invite us all to try them!
      Remember 22 rimfire silhouette? 40, 60, 80, and 100 meter quarter sized metal targets?
      Good training but striclty offhand shooting. and maybe a dead sport...
      Good luck
      Last edited by The King; 06-04-2010, 5:34 PM. Reason: spell "positions"

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      • #4
        mattt
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 1345

        King small bore silhouette is alive and well.USA in concord has a match this sat

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        • #5
          50BMGBOB
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 1738

          200 yards with a 22LR is a lot of fun. Put out a few ribbons/flags and watch the winds. Clays are fun for reactive targets, as are swingers. Groups on paper are great to really work on reading the winds.

          200 yards with a 22LR you have to work your come ups for the scope and watch the winds if you want to group well. It is great practice sense I only get to shoot at long ranges a few times a year. I get to shoot at 200 yards several times a month.

          USI also does a "Varmint Hunter’s Challenge" where they use the standard smallbore shilouette targets but strech them out to 200 yards and shoot from the bench. It's a lot of fun, even if I don't shoot it as often as I would like.
          sigpic50BMGBOB aka 50BMGLAZARUS aka 50BMGZOMBIEBOB aka the UN- DEAD!

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          • #6
            mif_slim
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2008
            • 10089

            Yes it does help! I use it for practise too. A 22 shot at 300 yards is equavliant to a 223 shooting at 1000 yards. Not that anyone would it it for 1000 yards. But 250-275 = ~800 yard shots.
            Originally posted by Gottmituns
            It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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            • #7
              DavidRSA
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 1154

              Any recommendations for a good .22 to use as well as a scope? This 200-300 yard challenge sounds great. Is there a specialty forum or website for .22 precision shooting?

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              • #8
                Ahhnother8
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 1454

                Originally posted by mif_slim
                A 22 shot at 300 yards is equavliant to a 223 shooting at 1000 yards. Not that anyone would it it for 1000 yards. But 250-275 = ~800 yard shots.
                Would have to respectfully disagree with the above.

                There are matches at Richmond and Modesto where we shoot rimfire at 150, 175, and 200 yards. The 200 yard stage is quite challenging in the wind.

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                • #9
                  FUBAR
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 2453

                  Check out the Savage MKII TR 22lr. The stock is similar to a McMillan, HS Precision, Manners type stock. It also has an oversized bolt. Neat little rifle. Get a simple mildot scope like a Bushnell 10x40 tactical and your good to go.

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                  • #10
                    Timberwolf
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 6275

                    Thats how the 22 tac/prec matches got started as alot of us train with our 22s to save $$. I'd suggest a Savage MkII.
                    I'm only smiling at you while you talk to me because it's hilarious that you really think I give a crap about you.

                    As I've gotten older I thought I was gaining patience, then I realized I simply don't give a crap.

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                    • #11
                      paul0660
                      In Memoriam
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 15669

                      "It can't hurt!"
                      *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                      • #12
                        DavidRSA
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1154

                        Savage MkII....Nice recommendation and good price. Found one out of state. Now trying to find an FFL who is not too expensive.....

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                        • #13
                          Eat Dirt
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 9557

                          Originally posted by mif_slim
                          Yes it does help! I use it for practise too. A 22 shot at 300 yards is equavliant to a 223 shooting at 1000 yards. Not that anyone would it it for 1000 yards. .
                          Thanks ... I was wondering about that

                          I have a spot where we get to go Long with a .22

                          Have steel at 100, 150 and 300 Yards
                          --------------------------------------------------------------

                          I miss the Good 'ol days of Cal -Guns

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                          • #14
                            mif_slim
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 10089

                            NP, When I say equivalant I mean by the scope adjustments. Yes, the wind will play a huge roll, but at least you know how to judge your distance. It helps you know that @ 600 yards your adjustments for a .223 is 18.5 MOA(look for your load data, but mine is a .223) which translate into a 22 and its ballistics to be about 180-190 yards with ~18.5 MOA adjustments. So it gives you an idea of how to adjust for your 600-1000 yard shots. At 300 yards the 22 will drop so much its not even funny (137"(11') drop!) so some have to shim their scope mounts to reach there.

                            I had to shim mines as I maxed out at around 280 yards, after shimming I got out to ~325 max but that was plenty for me.

                            Anyways, its a good practice and fun!
                            Last edited by mif_slim; 06-04-2010, 9:20 AM.
                            Originally posted by Gottmituns
                            It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                            • #15
                              DavidRSA
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 1154

                              Thanks for the recommendations! I got it!

                              Just got this through Gun Genie! Thanks for the recommendations guys!!

                              Now off to the CAPRC forum for some scope and other discussion!

                              Last edited by DavidRSA; 06-04-2010, 2:00 PM.

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