Returning 15-22 GARBAGE

[gotime]

So after a few weeks with this crap, I called Big 5 and I'm going to return it. I got a SWEET deal with the 20% Off, but what good is a firearm that has FTEs and OOBs nearly every mag. Ridiculous.

Why not return for a repair? Because I frequent the S&W forums and the turnaround time is over a month and half! On top the people who have gotten the updated parts in their "fixed" 15-22s haven't all necessarily seen improvements. The topper was the douche CSR I spoke with this morning (no need to go into it further really).

Good thing this isn't a handgun and the return will be easy. Just gotta figure out what I want to do with the $400 now and bear another 10 day wait. Maybe start buying pieces for a legit AR.

[rimfired]

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience.

[xman]

I just bought mine today and shot a few rounds and love it

[novabrian]

Get a GSG, mine runs like a clock.

[erratikmind]

Sorry for your terrible experience. I have had nothing but an excellent time with mine. Good luck to you with your next purchase.

[SD619]

Shot mine today for the first time, 500 rounds of blazer with not a single issue. It's also pretty darn accurate.

[ninjamaster]

Sounds like a .223 AR is in future! GSGs are fun and cheap enough also!

[Digital_Boy]

Regular AR with a Spike's .22LR upper and Black Dog magazines.

[GM4spd]

Why not return for a repair? Because I frequent the S&W forums and the turnaround time is over a month and half! On top the people who have gotten the updated parts in their "fixed" 15-22s haven't all necessarily seen improvements. The topper was the douche CSR I spoke with this morning (no need to go into it further really).

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I can't believe S&W can't get this right,those things have been plagued
with problems from the begining. It's been way too long---I'm waiting
for someone to file a BIG suit when they get hurt by an OOB explosion---
they can win the S&W lottery. The longer it goes the worse S&W looks.
Glad I bought the SIG 522. Pete

[Ladyfox]

I can't believe S&W can't get this right,those things have been plagued with problems from the beginning. It's been way too long--- I'm waiting for someone to file a BIG suit when they get hurt by an OOB explosion--- they can win the S&W lottery. The longer it goes the worse S&W looks. Glad I bought the SIG 522. Pete

The problem with this is that, at least based upon what I've read, it all boils down to the ammo being used. Most users, who use ammo off of the suggested list, have little to no issues and just about none of the OOB issues. Everyone is making the assumption that these are supposed to act like a 10/22 or rifles that have been out for YEARS longer than the 15-22 which has been out for less than a year.

As far as I've been seeing they have done everything that I think can be done in order to address the issues on a case-by-case basis. I do think they somewhat shot themselves in the foot by over-compensating by offering free magazines or shipping labels which has generated an expectation for things that by all rights were just being done as a nice gesture rather than by policy. Granted, I'm not trying to excuse or give S&W a pass here especially on the lack of a recommended ammo list for the rifle upon it's release that would have most likely avoided a majority of the OOB issues.

However, when you have comments like this being tossed around and not even really telling the entire story it's not giving them a fair shake nor is it even being remotely helpful to those who may also be having the same issues. If you are not happy, hey, that's your right but do not make blanket statements without facts to back them up otherwise expect to be called out on them.

[mikengracie]

I got one and have run a few thousand rounds through it now. Not one failure of any sort. Not one. No failure to load, no failure to fire, no failure to eject, no stovepipes, no failure to fire and no obb. So as displeased as you are I am just as ecstatic.

[gotime]

^ I'm desperate to be in your situation. Seriously, when the thing shoots it's a real pleasure. I called S&W again today to see if I could get some assurance that if I did send it in it would come back 100% and the answer was... No. Hahaha but he did tell me that they would do whatever it takes to get my 15-22 to shoot the way it was intended even if that meant even more trips back to S&W on their dime.

SO after some deliberation, I've decided to give them a chance to right their wrongs. My girlfriend also knocked some financial sense into me. I got the thing for a steal and I'd be losing DROS fees if I returned it.

[GM4spd]

[QUOTE=Ladyfox;4197159]The problem with this is that, at least based upon what I've read, it all boils down to the ammo being used. Most users, who use ammo off of the suggested list, have little to no issues and just about none of the OOB issues. Everyone is making the assumption that these are supposed to act like a 10/22 or rifles that have been out for YEARS longer than the 15-22 which has been out for less than a year.

QUOTE]

I think the S&W has been out for more then a year. Having a list of
recommended ammo is not an answer. I've had S&W stuff for years and
never had any problems. I still think they are on shaky ground liability
wise---all it will take is ONE lawsuit to put S&W in a financial world of
hurt. Pete

[Havoc70]

What is OOB? I'm pretty sure I'll feel stupid when someone says it, but the only thing I can think of is either out of bounds or out of balance and none of those really make sense in the context. Nor was it mentioned in the acronym thread .

[chad68]

Little off topic but I have a Smith and Wesson 2206 Target pistol (.22LR) I bought in the mid 90's brand new. I read lots of things just recentlly about people saying what a POS it is/was. It is a POS with Remington and less so with other brands of ammo. It runs near 100% with Federal bulk packs. Some .22's are just really picky about the brand you run through them.

I posted something about my test on Feds vs Remington vs Winchester. The Feds only had one issue in 300 rounds that I put through it. The Rems failed to chamber every single time. The Wins were not as good as Feds but 80% better than Rems.

I can't say enough good things about Federal bulk pack (blue box). If you haven't tried them, try them. I have never shot CCI mini mags but some say the Feds are just about if not as reliable.