Best 10/22 tactical folder/retractable stock?

[benbangui]

hey guys, im having a hard time deciding on what to get because i have never
seen any of the 10/22 tactical stocks in person, to feel weather or not they
are flimsy, crappy, etc... i know a lot of "folders" end up being vary loose and
crappy. what do you guys think? are any of the tactical folders or retractable
stocks for the 10/22 worth it? i would like to hear from people that own the
stocks so i can hear, long term, how they hold up... i know there is tapco,
choate, butler creek, ramline, christy&chirsty... im just dont want to end up
with a flimsy one...

im turning this gun...


my bunny hunter, wich already serves its purpose, into a dusk, "night shooter".
i would like to put a folding stock on it and forward rails so i can attach lights.
what do you think would be the best stock for this?

and if your interested in this stock let me know cause when im ready to buy the
other one i will be selling this one... thanks all!

[benbangui]

ttt

[Quiet]

my bunny hunter, wich already serves its purpose, into a dusk, "night shooter".
i would like to put a folding stock on it and forward rails so i can attach lights.
what do you think would be the best stock for this?

I don't have much experience with folding/extending stocks on Ruger 10/22s, but...
If you do install one, make sure the overall length is 26" or greater with the stock folded/collapsed. If it's under 26", then udner CA laws, it will be considered an unregistered SBR (felony).

Also, you do know it is illegal to take "resident small game" at "night". [CA F&G 310]
And the use of lights while hunting is also regulated. [CA F&G 264]


CA F&G Code 310
Shooting Hours on Resident Small Game Mammals.
The shooting hours for all resident small game mammals shall be one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset.

CA F&G Code 257
Resident Small Game Defined.
"Resident small game" means the following resident game birds: Chinese spotted doves, Eurasian collared-doves, ringed turtle-doves of the family Columbidae, California quail and varieties thereof, Gambel's or desert quail, mountain quail and varieties thereof, sooty grouse and varieties thereof, ruffed grouse, sage grouse (sage hens), white-tailed ptarmigan, Hungarian partridges, red-legged partridges, including the chukar and other varieties, ring-necked pheasants and varieties, and wild turkeys of the order Galliformes; and the following game mammals: jackrabbits and varying hares (genus Lepus), cottontail rabbits, brush rabbits, pigmy rabbits (genus Sylvilagus), and tree squirrels (genus Sciurus and Tamiasciurus).

CA F&G Code 264
Use of Lights While Hunting--Specific Areas.
(a) Lights of any size or voltage may be used to take furbearing or nongame mammals only in the areas described in subsections (b) and (c) below, and only under the following conditions:
(1) The use of lights for night hunting is prohibited in any area where the general deer season is open.
(2) Furbearing mammals and nongame mammals may be taken with the aid of a spotlight or other artificial light operated from a vehicle provided such vehicle is stopped and standing with the motor off. No spotlight may be used from a vehicle which is on a public road or highway.
(b) Zone 1. (Portions of Butte, Colusa, Glenn, Placer, Sacramento, Sutter, Tehama, Yolo and Yuba counties.)
Area: Within the boundary beginning at the junction of Interstate 880 and Interstate 5 near Sacramento; east on Interstate 880 to its junction with Interstate 80; north and east on Interstate 80 to its junction with Highway 65 near Roseville, along Highway 65 to its junction with Highway 20 at Marysville; west on Highway 20 to its junction with Highway 45; north on Highway 45 to its junction with Highway 162; east on Highway 162 to its junction with Highway 99; north on Highway 99 to South Avenue near the town of Corning; west on South Avenue to Interstate 5 in Corning; north on Interstate 5 to Corning Road; west on Corning Road to Paskenta Road; west on the Paskenta Road to the town of Paskenta; southwest on the Round Valley Road to the Garland Road; south on the Garland Road to the town of Newville; south on the Newville-Elk Creek Road to the town of Elk Creek; south on the Elk Creek-Stonyford Road to the town of Stonyford; south on the Stonyford-Leesville Road to the town of Ladoga; south on the Stonyford-Leesville Road to the town of Leesville; south from Leesville on the Bear Valley Road to its intersection with Highway 20; east on Highway 20 to its intersection with Highway 16; south and east on Highway 16 to its intersection with Interstate 5; east on Interstate 5 to Interstate 880 and the point of beginning.

[benbangui]

i thought that if it was private property, the animal was determined a nuisance and they just wanted them terminated off the property due to destruction of property it didnt mater the time of day.

[advocatusdiaboli]

i thought that if it was private property, the animal was determined a nuisance and they just wanted them terminated off the property due to destruction of property it didnt mater the time of day.

I am pretty sure game is game and the regulations apply whether public or private land but you should look it up in the CA DFG Game Laws on-line. I am assuming you are shooting Jack Rabbits. All rabbits and hares are considered small game mammals in CA and subject to small game regulations from what I can tell.

As for lights, even where permitted they:

"Lights may be used, in those portions of the state not listed in Section 264, to take furbearers and nongame mammals under the following conditions only:

(a) Only 9 volt lights or smaller, hand-held or worn on the head are permitted."

[uxo2]

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[CelticRanger]

thats a nice kitchen floor

ps, i like the tapco, haven't seen or tried the new angled stock version though.

[Quiet]

i thought that if it was private property, the animal was determined a nuisance and they just wanted them terminated off the property due to destruction of property it didnt mater the time of day.

Rabbits are "resident small game", they are not "nongame animals". So, all hunting regulation apply.

Rabbits are "resident small game" mammals [CA F&G Code 257].
Therefore, they can only be taken while in season [CA F&G Code 308 & 309] and during regulated times of day [CA F&G Code 310].
You also need a hunting license in order to legally "take" rabbits [CA F&G Code 700(b)].

Some "nongame animals" can be take anytime of year [CA F&G Code 472(a)] and at anytime of day [CA F&G Code 474].


CA F&G Code 257
Resident Small Game Defined.
"Resident small game" means the following resident game birds: Chinese spotted doves, Eurasian collared-doves, ringed turtle-doves of the family Columbidae, California quail and varieties thereof, Gambel's or desert quail, mountain quail and varieties thereof, sooty grouse and varieties thereof, ruffed grouse, sage grouse (sage hens), white-tailed ptarmigan, Hungarian partridges, red-legged partridges, including the chukar and other varieties, ring-necked pheasants and varieties, and wild turkeys of the order Galliformes; and the following game mammals: jackrabbits and varying hares (genus Lepus), cottontail rabbits, brush rabbits, pigmy rabbits (genus Sylvilagus), and tree squirrels (genus Sciurus and Tamiasciurus).

CA F&G Code 472
Except as otherwise provided in Sections 478 and 485 and subsections (a) through (d) below, nongame birds and mammals may not be taken.
(a) The following nongame birds and mammals may be taken at any time of the year and in any number except as prohibited in Chapter 6: English sparrow, starling, coyote, weasels, skunks, opossum, moles and rodents (excluding tree and flying squirrels, and those listed as furbearers, endangered or threatened species).

[benbangui]

Rabbits are "resident small game", they are not "nongame animals". So, all hunting regulation apply.

Rabbits are "resident small game" mammals [CA F&G Code 257].
Therefore, they can only be taken while in season [CA F&G Code 308 & 309] and during regulated times of day [CA F&G Code 310].
You also need a hunting license in order to legally "take" rabbits [CA F&G Code 700(b)].

Some "nongame animals" can be take anytime of year [CA F&G Code 472(a)] and at anytime of day [CA F&G Code 474].


CA F&G Code 257
Resident Small Game Defined.
"Resident small game" means the following resident game birds: Chinese spotted doves, Eurasian collared-doves, ringed turtle-doves of the family Columbidae, California quail and varieties thereof, Gambel's or desert quail, mountain quail and varieties thereof, sooty grouse and varieties thereof, ruffed grouse, sage grouse (sage hens), white-tailed ptarmigan, Hungarian partridges, red-legged partridges, including the chukar and other varieties, ring-necked pheasants and varieties, and wild turkeys of the order Galliformes; and the following game mammals: jackrabbits and varying hares (genus Lepus), cottontail rabbits, brush rabbits, pigmy rabbits (genus Sylvilagus), and tree squirrels (genus Sciurus and Tamiasciurus).

CA F&G Code 472
Except as otherwise provided in Sections 478 and 485 and subsections (a) through (d) below, nongame birds and mammals may not be taken.
(a) The following nongame birds and mammals may be taken at any time of the year and in any number except as prohibited in Chapter 6: English sparrow, starling, coyote, weasels, skunks, opossum, moles and rodents (excluding tree and flying squirrels, and those listed as furbearers, endangered or threatened species).

thanks quiet that clarifies it well. i think before in the past when i did the "night shooting" on private property because it was a problem to the land owners, they where pigs. and we did have a truck mounted light. though i didnt see pigs in the "exeption" code.... but it looks like that exception code is just small game? pigs are considered non-native to california right?

i do appreciate your code info thanks again

[tileguy]

i have had two of the ramline folders on two of my 10/22 they are still tight and strong after ten years for one and fifteen years for the other and there still strong as ever. i picked up a muzzlelite bullpup for another 10/22 its fun.picked it up used on ebay for about 40 bucks. good luck

[Joe226]

PM sent for stock

[Quiet]

thanks quiet that clarifies it well. i think before in the past when i did the "night shooting" on private property because it was a problem to the land owners, they where pigs. and we did have a truck mounted light. though i didnt see pigs in the "exeption" code.... but it looks like that exception code is just small game? pigs are considered non-native to california right?

i do appreciate your code info thanks again

Pigs are "big game" animals [CA F&G 350].
You need a hunting license as well as a "wild pig" tag, in order to legally hunt them [CA F&G 700(b) & 708(f)].

It's illegal to hunt pigs at "night" [CA F&G 352].

Pigs are in season all year and there is no bag limit for them [CA F&G 368].


CA F&G Code 350
Big Game Defined.
"Big game" means the following: deer (genus Odocoileus), elk (genus Cervus), pronghorn antelope (genus Antilocarpa), wild pig (feral pigs, European wild pigs and their hybrids (genus Sus), black bear (genus Ursus) and Nelson bighorn sheep (subspecies Ovis canadensis nelsoni) in the areas described in subsection 4902(b) of the Fish and Game Code.

CA F&G Code 352
Shooting Hours on Big Game.
Hunting and shooting hours for big game, including but not limited to deer, antelope, elk, bear, and wild pig shall be from one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset.

CA F&G Code 368
Wild Pig.
Wild pigs may be taken only as follows:
(a) General Season: Open all year.
(b) Bag and Possession Limit: There is no daily bag or possession limit for wild pigs.

CA F&G Code 700
Hunting and Fishing Licenses, Possession and Display Of.
(b) Possession of Hunting License: Every person, while engaged in taking any bird or mammal must have on their person or in their immediate possession a valid hunting license.

CA F&G Code 708
Big Game License Tag, Application, Distribution and Reporting Procedures.
(f) Application For and Use of Wild Pig License Tags:
(1) Any person, 12 years of age or older, who possesses a valid hunting license may procure wild pig license tags as specified in Section 4654 of the Fish and Game Code.
(2) Resident and nonresident wild pig license tags will be sold individually.
(3) Wild pig license tags are valid only during that portion of the current hunting license year in which wild pigs may be legally harvested as provided in subsection 368(a).
(4) Any person hunting wild pigs shall carry a wild pig license tag while hunting wild pigs, and upon the killing of any wild pig shall immediately fill out both parts of the tag, clearly mark the date of the kill and attach the tag to the carcass of the wild pig. The report card portion shall be immediately returned to the department.

[benbangui]

i have had two of the ramline folders on two of my 10/22 they are still tight and strong after ten years for one and fifteen years for the other and there still strong as ever. i picked up a muzzlelite bullpup for another 10/22 its fun.picked it up used on ebay for about 40 bucks. good luck

thanks! thats what i have been wanting to hear this whole time!

[benbangui]

Pigs are "big game" animals [CA F&G 350].
You need a hunting license as well as a "wild pig" tag, in order to legally hunt them [CA F&G 700(b) & 708(f)].

It's illegal to hunt pigs at "night" [CA F&G 352].

Pigs are in season all year and there is no bag limit for them [CA F&G 368].


CA F&G Code 350
Big Game Defined.
"Big game" means the following: deer (genus Odocoileus), elk (genus Cervus), pronghorn antelope (genus Antilocarpa), wild pig (feral pigs, European wild pigs and their hybrids (genus Sus), black bear (genus Ursus) and Nelson bighorn sheep (subspecies Ovis canadensis nelsoni) in the areas described in subsection 4902(b) of the Fish and Game Code.

CA F&G Code 352
Shooting Hours on Big Game.
Hunting and shooting hours for big game, including but not limited to deer, antelope, elk, bear, and wild pig shall be from one-half hour before sunrise to one-half hour after sunset.

CA F&G Code 368
Wild Pig.
Wild pigs may be taken only as follows:
(a) General Season: Open all year.
(b) Bag and Possession Limit: There is no daily bag or possession limit for wild pigs.

CA F&G Code 700
Hunting and Fishing Licenses, Possession and Display Of.
(b) Possession of Hunting License: Every person, while engaged in taking any bird or mammal must have on their person or in their immediate possession a valid hunting license.

CA F&G Code 708
Big Game License Tag, Application, Distribution and Reporting Procedures.
(f) Application For and Use of Wild Pig License Tags:
(1) Any person, 12 years of age or older, who possesses a valid hunting license may procure wild pig license tags as specified in Section 4654 of the Fish and Game Code.
(2) Resident and nonresident wild pig license tags will be sold individually.
(3) Wild pig license tags are valid only during that portion of the current hunting license year in which wild pigs may be legally harvested as provided in subsection 368(a).
(4) Any person hunting wild pigs shall carry a wild pig license tag while hunting wild pigs, and upon the killing of any wild pig shall immediately fill out both parts of the tag, clearly mark the date of the kill and attach the tag to the carcass of the wild pig. The report card portion shall be immediately returned to the department.

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ok, i was young and stupid and was told i could!!! lets just have this thread deleted...

[ChrisO]

You can edit your post. Man to bad that means no taking of ground squirrels in SJ county at night :/. I was wondering about this as well for ground squirrels.